I've seen other writers here say they still have no agent. So, I would imagine you would have to contact Gold Eagle editorial staff, and they will lead you to where to submit your manuscript. But you better check your spelling, as well as have every guideline they ask for.

Good luck!

If you haven't found it yet, here is a link to Harlequin's writing guidelines:

http://www.harlequin.com/...icleId=538&chapter=0

Harlequin owns Gold Eagle books.

Chuck may be able to add more current information, but in my experience, GE has generally "promoted" its authors from within, regardless of any posted "submission requirements" for Harlequin (which is an entirely separate, slouching beast). With few exceptions, GE's Bolan novels have been the starting point for new writers in the stable. DL/OL are the end points, the pinnacles of creativity and high pay   reached only after years of toil at the lower level.

One reason GE authors don't have agents: agents won't deal with GE, which does not usually negotiate contracts or pay royalties--it's take it or leave it. This also may explain why the books are so often such crap.

Cheer's for the info gentlemen, most helpfull. Just got to get started with the manuscript. Should have it finished by 2020

AP, just out of curiosity, would you know if DL outsells the Bolan titles?

Posted By mikeclr on 29 Feb 2012 08:45 AM
AP, just out of curiosity, would you know if DL outsells the Bolan titles?

Mikeclr,
I answered this yesterday, but I guess it didn't stick because of the changeover.

Based on what I was told by those in power, back when I knew those in power, the answer is "WAY."

But "WAY" is a relative term outside the GE-verse. If Bolan books sell 15K copies each and DL books sell 30K copies each, that seems a significant difference. But in the wider world of publishing, there is no difference: the sales of both series suck.
AP

Posted By AP on 01 Mar 2012 04:18 PM

I answered this yesterday, but I guess it didn't stick because of the changeover.

Sorry if your post got lost in the shuffle. You must have put it in just under the wire between when the web host started moving the database and when I shut the forums down. It came up rather quickly, otherwise I would have done it in the other order.

Damn AP....u need to talk?

Posted By Diablo on 06 Mar 2012 08:34 AM
Damn AP....u need to talk?

Diablo,
Thanks for the offer, but I read some 70s porn and now I feel better.
AP

I have very fond memories of 70s porn. It's the wood paneling and shag carpets that really sells it.

And those great hairstyles and granny panties. Can't forget them.

Anybody read the brand-new post-holocaust novel: The Last Pilgrims, by Michael Bunker?

Posted By Maximus on 06 Mar 2012 07:20 PM
Anybody read the brand-new post-holocaust novel: The Last Pilgrims, by Michael Bunker?

Does the novel feature shag carpet and granny panties?

Or as in DL, 200-word descriptions of sex between people who never wash their clothes or their wedding tackle?

Heheheheheheh...

Posted By Maximus on 06 Mar 2012 07:20 PM
Anybody read the brand-new post-holocaust novel: The Last Pilgrims, by Michael Bunker?

I've looked at the website is it any good?

How come Krysty never falls pregnant? Pretty sure all condoms are past there use by date, and millie aint making the pill out of docking leaves and ground stickie bones.

Posted By silentalbino on 07 Mar 2012 06:45 PM
How come Krysty never falls pregnant? Pretty sure all condoms are past there use by date, and millie aint making the pill out of docking leaves and ground stickie bones.

Silentalbino,
Krysty is a mutie (remember her prehensile hair?), so that explains why all the decades of boot-knocking with Ryan have been for nought. It's like a weasel trying to get a pumpkin pregnant. Kind of fun to watch, but in the end pointless.


As for Mildred, I think the freezie experience might be the root cause of her infertility. Her eggs never unfroze. Either that or back in the Trader Days JB suffered a terrible accident in the scrotal area while reloading 12-gauge shells with buckshot. 
AP

Posted By AP on 07 Mar 2012 08:00
 
  
 It's like a weasel trying to get a pumpkin pregnant. Kind of fun to watch, but in the end pointless.

  Damn sir, that has left me with one hell of a mental image.

  I think her mutie heritage shouldnt stop her from concieving and at some point Ryan should be able to knock her up.

Maybe she's infertile. Or maybe she's just so in touch with Gaia that she can control her own fertility. If she can channel the whole Earth Mother thing then it stands to reason that she can also channel and control her own cycles.

Which of course leads to a whole other issue that has never come up for either Krysty or Mildred in the series...

Lori and Krysty kind of have a discussion off camera in homeward bound.
Whoa Bodyform!!!!

Posted By Ron Miles on 07 Mar 2012 10:06 PM
Maybe she's infertile. Or maybe she's just so in touch with Gaia that she can control her own fertility. If she can channel the whole Earth Mother thing then it stands to reason that she can also channel and control her own cycles.

Which of course leads to a whole other issue that has never come up for either Krysty or Mildred in the series...

(This also relates to silentalbino's previous posts.) If Krysty can get pregnant, why hasn't she? Why is she holding out? Is she waiting for Ryan to provide a cute blast-proof concrete bunker with a razor wire fence around it? Or is it something even more fundamental ()? Sure she'll do him (in a cave or ditch or burned-out 1980 Fiesta) but she doesn't want to breed with him? Maybe she wants her gaggle of banshee-screaming, prehensile-haired mutie brats to have some other daddy? Perhaps a daddy with more groinal firepower? Someone who can make her hair stand up straight?

I'm just sayin' ... 
 

ha ha she a golddigga' waiting for a Baron with a load of jack.

silentalbino,
Don't think I ever answered the question posed by your thread. Too busy being flip, I guess.

Here are the steps in writing a DL:

1) Come up with a story idea. This takes the least amount of time and is by far the easiest part. It can even be stated in a single sentence (For example, Mildred eats oozie-infected brains, twice). That's why you hear so many people say "I've got a great idea for a DL (or vampire novel, or zombie novel)." I liken this step to breaking wind in a crowded elevator.


2) Develop the story idea into a plot. This is a bit more difficult, and is rarely attempted by people who "have a great idea." A plot has to have a beginning, middle, and end. As it progresses, tension and pace should steadily build, and events should challenge the mettle of the main characters. Creating a series of interconnected, interesting and exciting events that lead somewhere is key. If where they lead is unexpected, so much the better. The truly anal author (such as myself) will briefly block out the book chapter by chapter, scene by scene.


3) Write the effing thing. This is of course the hardest part. I won't explain my personal technique here. It is belabored at length in my website newsletters (see the Alan Philipson link on the ja.com homepage)—which I haven't added to for a long time because I've been busy with other projects.


4) Forgetaboutit. A DL novel is the opposite of deathless prose. Even if it is published it passes from the collective human consciousness three weeks after release. Again, the wind analogy comes to mind.


Also, no reason for you to ever call me "sir." The only person who is actually required to do that is Chuck.

Thanks for the belated reply, A-Dog.

Did you fall out with GoldEagle too?If not please write another DL,cause Cannibal Moon was Doss(Scottish slang for very good)

I've got a location,so far but that is about it. I'll need to think about what character's etc will be going into it.
There definitly won't be any stickies in it( can't stand the critter's)

Shee-it! How do ya'll know it's Krysty's fault. I betcha big bad Ryan has at least one gun that is shootin' blanks!

Posted By mikeclr on 09 Mar 2012 06:33 PM
Shee-it! How do ya'll know it's Krysty's fault. I betcha big bad Ryan has at least one gun that is shootin' blanks!

Because Ryan sired Dean with Sharona? Or are you sayin' Dean is a bastard, and Ryan doesn't know it?

That was before he ran outta ammo!

Posted By mikeclr on 09 Mar 2012 07:01 PM
That was before he ran outta ammo!

Now that makes sense. Who knows what effect all the mat-trans jumps might have had on Ryan's stones--could have shrunk them down to the size of raisins. But again that raises the question: when Krysty finally decides to un-Gaia her ovulation cycle and have kids, who's the daddy? The most obvious candidates are JB, Jak, and Doc (unless Mildred has been hiding something from us all these years). But that route would certainly complicate the companions' ongoing relationship.


There are many other options, including Magus with a turkey baster.


Oops, my DLs are so unforgettable that even I don't remember them!  


There already WAS a turkey baster episode--in Dumb ... I mean ... Doom Helix. Ryan's joy juice was forcibly harvested from Krysty's (ahem) and used to create a super-genetic, universe-jumping, test tube daughter, whose name escapes me.  

If the mat-trans jumps have resulted in testicular infortitude for Ryan, it seems safe to assume the same for the rest. Clearly when Jak started his family way back when, it was before he had made enough jumps with the companions for his stones to turn into pebbles. I like the turkey baster idea, though. I am picturing a Demon Seed type story, with the Magus holding Krysty prisoner in a computerized smart house while the rest of the companions try to battle their way through the security measures.

There you go, Chuck, I just farted in your general direction. Feel free to run with it.

The She-he was named Auriel Otis Trask .

I'm sure that if the story line was to include a safe place for Ryan and Krysty to have a baby that they would, but that would in my opinion signal the end of the Deathlands series. So I can't see Krysty ever having kids.

Just make sure you don't misspell Jak as Jake.  Lol.  I've counted over 5 separate times that's happened.  Good Luck!

I seem to remember one of the books having it that Mother Sonja had taught Krysty how to make a concoction to prevent pregnancy and that she always kept a supply on hand.

I also think it was stated or implied somewhere that she is waiting to have a family with Ryan until they find that ideal place to settle down that is a sanctuary, or a kind of oasis from the deathlands. 

I always assumed that the series would end with a chron jump to somewhere in the past, perhaps even hundreds of years before 2001. Then they would have their peace.