Another One Eyed Chiller New Member Posts:76  
| 5/16/2009 8:34 AM |
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I am sure all true Death Lands fans thought that the Sci Fi Channel's movie adaption of "Homeward Bound" was a complete disaster on too many levels to list.) Vincent Spano as Ryan?hahahahah!That was probably the least bad thing about it!
My hope is that it has not ruined the chance for a Death Lands feature film.
Since the 1990 Dolph Lundgren "Punisher" did not stop Marvel entertainment from making 2 more Punisher movies in 2004 and 2008,there seems like there should be hope for another crack at Death Lands with a real budget/cast/and a decent director.
In my opinion I think Death Lands requires a bit of cgi effects/blue screen like "300" and since Zak Snyder directed that,the "Dawn of The Dead "remake/and "Watch Men" he would bring alot to the film.
(300 is my fav movie and Zak is my fav director.lol)
Cast:I think Hugh Jackman(w/eye patch of course) would be a phenominal Ryan Cawdor!
He has proven he can play a baddass already w/his "Wolverine/X-Men" roles.
He also has the right height/build/hair color etc..and a blue contact lense fixes his brown eye.
As far as Jak,J.B.,Mildred.Krysty,and Doc Tanner?
I have no idea,perhaps it would be good to use "unknowns".
I do think that Anthony Hopkins would be a great Doc Tanner!
I would love to discuss this w/anyone interested and find out who they think the actors should be?/what book?a series?a movie?
Maybe a Comic book or graphic novel would be a better forum?
Another series(vampire fiction) that I love has become a very hot selling series of comic books after a 10 year to present run as a New York times bestseller.
All friendly discussion/replies are welcome!
Thanks,
Chris
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JettaManDan Basic Member Posts:252 
| 5/20/2009 8:13 AM |
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i need to give this some thought as to who i think would play well..Hugh J for Ryan could definately work...but do you see him taking a role that not many people know about? Krysty would have to be someone special...like Jessica Biel with a hair color change....now that would be damm hot!
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 5/20/2009 5:16 PM |
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Yeah,you have a point man.
Hugh Jackman might be too "big" a star,but if it had a decent budget and a well known director?Why not?
Ryan Cawdor kinda reminds me of Kurt Russells' Character "Snake Plisken" in "Escape From New York"Kurt Russell would have been perfect but he is too old now.
I agree about Jessica Biehl,SMOKIN!!!
It would probably work best if the characters were unknowns,kinda like how Brandon Routh played the new Super Man?
All I know is I have been wanting to see Death Lands on the screen for 17 years and instead I was destroyed with that sci-fi-channel "Homeward Bound",with that douchebag Vincent Spano trying to play Ryan.Hell,I could make a more convincing Cawdor and Im a pussy compated to that character!lol. |
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dean_cawdor1977New Member Posts:29 
| 5/21/2009 12:49 AM |
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Okay I figure I should weigh in on this one, great topic!!! For Ryan, yeah if they could get him Hugh would be fantastic, if they could get him. For Jak, someone like Hayden Christensen or the guy who is playing the new young Captain Kirk. I do realize they need to be mid teens but hey that hasn't stopped hollywood before. Krysty NEEDS to me Megan Fox!! Not too sure about J.B. it has to be someone that melds well with Hugh.. maybe someone like Viggo Mortensen and Mildred, hmm mid 30's, black and good build and looks like they could have an edge... not too sure about that one. I do realize you have to pu some new faces into the mix or you would have a hell of a cast budget.. Dean needs to be a early teen actor.. and doc needs to be tall and skinny, not sure Hopkins would be a good match.
Thats just my 2 cents on this, lets see what people think...
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Dean DeathlandsNew Member Posts:15 
| 5/21/2009 10:04 AM |
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Here's my list. Ryan-Hugh Jackman, J.B.- Guy Pearce, Krysty-Rebrcca Romijn, Doc- Peter Fonda or Jon Voight, Mildred- Rejina King, Jak-Cam Gigandet, Trader- Clint Eastwood.  |
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke  Veteran Member Posts:1060 
| 5/21/2009 6:57 PM |
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I always think Ryan looks like a young Bob Dylan
Especially on the cover of Pony soldiers and Northstar Rising, just remove one of the lens from his sunglasses in the above picture and add a scar. =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125 
| 5/23/2009 2:53 AM |
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With the right budget,say "100 mil"?...We're lookin at 2 A listers and a halfass director....What book?....What characters?......I like Gerard Butler as Ryan,Bruce Willis as Trader and Guy Ritchie to direct.....The rest of the gang depends on the coin left.
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| 5/23/2009 3:08 AM |
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I remember staying up late one night to watch the Deathlands movie on Sky one night and remember being hugely dissapointed too. No Doc ? Jack fancying Krysty ? Come on.
OK my own choices for Ryan would have to be Christian Bale - see picture below
http://www2.netdoor.com/~rainhawk/pensive/bale-christian/bale-christian-46-02.jpg
And JB I would have to plump for Michael Shanks as long as he kept his glasses on.
http://www.unificationfrance.com/IMG/jpg/24_heures_chrono_michaels_shanks_2b.jpg
How about Sanaa Lathan as Mildred - AVP.
Worst choices would have to be Paris Hilton as Krysty, and Emimen as Jack !!
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 5/23/2009 4:03 AM |
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Good call on Sanaa Lathan for Mildred.... |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 5/23/2009 10:46 PM |
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Excellent choices all my friend.
Yeah you are right Anthony Hopkins probably is not a great choice for Doc.I love Megan Fox,but Kristy is in her mid thirties and Megan is just in her early twenties. |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 5/23/2009 10:48 PM |
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Your joking right man?.hahahaha!
Bob Dylan looks like a fruitcake and Ryan Cawdor looks like a badass. |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 5/23/2009 10:51 PM |
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Sanaa Lathan is an Excellent choice for Mildred.
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 5/23/2009 10:55 PM |
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Gerard Butler would be great for Ryan,but if you are calling Zach Snyder a half ass director after how great 300 did at the box office,the success of Watch Men and the Dawn of the Dead remake,then I think you are just a little off on what a good director is.I apologize if I misinterpreted you.I did state in my forum that I an asking for opinions on what book it should be based on,suggesting Pilgramage from Hell.
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QuinnDexterNew Member Posts:3
| 6/1/2009 11:47 PM |
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I would hope they go with the current group as it now stands. I would like new not just redo the early books. Hugh certainly could play Ryan perfectly considering how he can switch easily between demanding boss and understanding sensitive humanbeing. I like the idea of Jessica Biel she also is able to switch. I also liked the tough woman character she played in Stealth. Although I hate the idea of her with orange hair..... A Deathlands movie without Jak Lauren would be an absolute tragedy : ) I was also thinking Vanessa Blue for the role of Mildred ; P
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pwrgroove300New Member Posts:3 
| 6/4/2009 10:22 PM |
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Good call man!
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/4/2009 10:29 PM |
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Guy Ritchie? But Zach Snyder is half assed?
Every film Zach has done has scored at the box office and all were big budget.Guy ritchie makes the same film with a low budget over and over:Lock stock and 2 Barrels,Snatch,Rock n rolla,Etc.......
And not one of his films even came close to grossing the kind of money Zach Syder films do,Like 300!!! Dawn of the Dead,and Watch Men! |
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 6/9/2009 1:18 AM |
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Wait a minute......did I say anything about Zach Snyder?.......Ahhhh NO!!!!......Why do you gotta shit on my opinion of who should direct a Death Lands movie?......The movies you mentioned that Guy Ritchie directed are "guy" movies....seems to me that is who should direct a movie about "guy" books.....but thats just opinion
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| 6/11/2009 3:23 PM |
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This may be a stretch but I think that Christopher Walken could nail Doc. He's crazy and humorous enough to pull it off.
And, yeah, I can see Bruce Willis as Trader.
Of course the movie sucked but, contrary to popular opinion, I think that Traci Lords nailed Krysty's character bigtime! Watch it again, she has all of the nuances down.
Vincent Spano? Ok, but not great. JB's character was kind of there but not in spirit. Jak's character ruined the whole movie. He wasn't even a whimpy version of the "real" Jak.
Plus, I think that they could have found a better story line than Homeward Bound to film.
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| 6/13/2009 3:16 AM |
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Umm.. Traci Lords was NOT Krysty.. she was Lady Rachel Cawdor in that dreadful movie..
The lady who played Krysty was Jenya Lano
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 6/13/2009 7:21 AM |
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I wasn't the first person to say he thought of Ryan as a Dylan look alike in his minds eye hence him getting a 60's style shaggy coat to wear  =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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pwrgroove300New Member Posts:3
| 6/15/2009 2:08 AM |
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I apologize man,I don't mean to shit on your opinion bro,I actually have seen every Guy Ritchie movie and am a big fan.I agree that it should be a "guy"movie,but I can't think of any movie that qualifies more than "300"as a "guy"movie.I'm sure That Bryan Singer "Xmen""Superman Returns" Valkyrie" could be a good choice as well as Guy Ritchie or Zach Snyder? |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/15/2009 2:20 AM |
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I agree with you on almost every point but one.Bruce Willis as Trader?Great!!!Christopher Walken is my Favorite actor period,so yeah he would be great as Doc or even a villian.I also think you are right about the fact that they could have used a better storyline than "Homeward Bound".You are dead on about Jak's character being played the worst.I do think JB's character was slightly correct but still a douchebag.My only disagreement w/you is about Vincent Spano,He too is a huge DoucheBag. |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/15/2009 2:26 AM |
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True,I apologize for downing ol Bob.It's just that I too am a musician/guitarist and I when I hear Bob Dylan I think of a musician/guitarist,not ass kicking futuristic one eyed warrior is all.LOL.
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skullspliterNew Member Posts:63 
| 6/15/2009 12:27 PM |
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Hmmm good topic. Bruce Willis , Christopher Walken ,Hugh Jackman All spot on  . For JB i say the Act has to short and Quiet and for the life of i cant think of anyone  . time to search the net. |
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 6/15/2009 2:25 PM |
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Not a problem.
To add my two pennies worth to this:
Kirtwood Smith (Clarence J. Boddicker in Robocop) as J.B Dix.
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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skullspliterNew Member Posts:63
| 6/15/2009 3:42 PM |
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I never thought of him  but your right Bloke he fits the part I'm also thinking of ED Harries too from enemy at the gates i think i spelled his name wrong. |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/15/2009 5:07 PM |
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Good choice my friend,maybe he is a bit too old now though,but the way he looked in Robocop,yeah.
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/15/2009 5:09 PM |
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Ed Harris would have been great,but now he is way too old in my opinion.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 6/15/2009 7:40 PM |
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=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/15/2009 8:55 PM |
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I can't fault you there my Brittish friend,I spend most of my time living in the past!I meant no offense,just that I am trying to figure out actors who would work as the characters now is all. |
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skullspliterNew Member Posts:63
| 6/15/2009 10:32 PM |
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Thats seems to be the problem most of the great actors are getting old or are old . Its seems you would need almost no names. |
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One Eye ChillsNew Member Posts:13 
| 6/16/2009 4:47 PM |
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Bottom line here is - you don't need big time Hollywood actors to have a great Deathlands movie made. That's been proven time and again by Pixar. If you can find a dedicated director, along with a solid screen writer who knows the series, and decent actors to do the job, then you have a surefire 300 Hollywood blockbuster on your hands. If made correctly, Deathlands would be like the last Terminator film. Dark. Gritty. And damn cool...  |
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/16/2009 9:13 PM |
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Very true!Hugh Jackman proves your point as he kicked ass as Wolverine as an unknown back in 2000' with Bryan Singer as director.I do think that Christian Bale's status as a huge actor sure did not hurt the success of the new Terminator film that you mentioned though?
Oh yeah,If a Death Lands was made in that style"Dark,Gritty,like the New Terminator,it would indeed kick serious ass and maybe be my new fav film over 300! |
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 6/17/2009 2:19 AM |
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pixar...your killin me....a disney DL's movie?
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One Eye ChillsNew Member Posts:13
| 6/17/2009 3:27 AM |
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I meant to point out that Pixar movies make millions - and it ain't because of the voices.
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skullspliterNew Member Posts:63
| 6/17/2009 3:49 AM |
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Maybe thats the answer your could do a CGI and all the said actors could do voice overs just a thought
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/17/2009 6:44 PM |
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Good freakin idea!
Hell even an animated deathlands or a deathlands comic book is better than a badly done movie or just reading and never getting to see anything or hear anything(although it is very fun to Visualize in my head all of the descriptions and imagine myself what is going on) |
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 6/19/2009 8:20 PM |
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I like the idea of a DL's comic.That would be the cool.If DL's went animated how would us true fans want to see it?.Black and white like a Sincity or more like a Manga movie?Hummmmm.....
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Another One Eyed ChillerNew Member Posts:76
| 6/22/2009 7:43 PM |
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I hate Manga,Love Sin City,but that's not right either.
Needs something like the original "Heavy Metal" from 81' with all the nudity,gore,and violence. |
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| 6/22/2009 7:49 PM |
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Its just too bad that the guys from Graphic Audio can't get into the CGI area with some of their creations..
To me, its those guys who are the real voices of the DL series!
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skullspliterNew Member Posts:63
| 6/23/2009 3:22 AM |
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I think your right the folks who do the voices are pretty good.
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 6/24/2009 2:52 AM |
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It just seems like with all the DL's books and other stuff that has been sold.That there would be a nice bit of money to be spent on a movie.I know I'm payin more for a book now then I did 5 yrs ago.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337 
| 7/15/2009 7:35 AM |
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Yeah,they are like 2/3 bucks more than when I read em as a teenager? "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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JettaManDanBasic Member Posts:252
| 7/20/2009 10:17 AM |
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you would think someone could do a credible job..i too stayed up to watch the movie and was horribly disguested....with all the Final fantasy and Doom I am legend and other end of the world movies out today doing ok..i think it could be a good time to bring this out...only issue is that reguardless of our interest...it has not reached the mainsteam yet - pretty much anyone i talk to about Sci-Fi stuff hasn't heard of DL or OL unless i bring it out.... i alos like Kurt Russle playing the Snake Pliskin angle as Ryan..could work...i'm still jacked up about Jessica Biel as Krysty...damm that would work! I can see Bruce willis as Trader..but i think we need someone even older and more haggard... |
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 7/20/2009 12:51 PM |
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I always kinda thought that the Ryan Cawdor character may have been based on Kurt Russels Escape from New York Snake Plisken character ?Badasss,eyepatch?Maybe?
But sadly Kurt is a bit too old now I think to play Ryan(he would have been perfect)
As far as Jessica Biel man?(hold on I have to clean up my drool and put my toungue back in my mouth)Where was I?Oh yeah,Jessica Biel would be great as Krysty(oh shit,there goes the toungue and drool again) "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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JettaManDanBasic Member Posts:252
| 7/23/2009 11:23 AM |
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totally....Jessica Biel FTW! from now on i'm picturing her as Krysty...yum!
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 7/23/2009 9:04 PM |
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Jak say "Jessica Biehl Double F**kable"
Make that: Jak say "Jessica Biehl Tripple F**kable" "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 7/25/2009 1:06 AM |
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Wow....Jessica as Krysty that eats up a budget.What about Willem Dafoe as Doc?how about the kid from the harry potter movies that played Draco Malfoy as Jak..
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 7/25/2009 8:48 PM |
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Good point bro.I don't really think ol Jessica is that big of a star to where she would get a huge paycheck?(not sure)
You have a great idea though about the pale white haired Malfoy kid making a perfect Jak!
"Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 8/7/2009 9:57 PM |
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All right I think I have the best person to play Trader.How about Kris Kristofferson,he is old,he is mean as hell.He is Trader.......
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/8/2009 1:14 AM |
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Hell Yes!! Kris Kristoferson is Trader!!!
You should get a cigar for that one bro!!! "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65 
| 8/8/2009 2:31 AM |
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Since we are dreaming I would like Sam Elliot to play JB Dix who is my fav character in the books. Although Sam may be a mite too tall for JB he has the right rangy build and is certainly crusty enough. Now for Krysty I was hoping for Tricia Helfer with a dye job. For Ryan I would like either Aaron Tippin or Trace Adkins. Kris Kristoferson for Trader would be awsome he was great in the Blade movies. Queen Latifa for Mildred?
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 8/8/2009 2:59 AM |
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Aaron Tippin?I dont know if ur talkin about the singer.But if you are......never mind............queen latifa?Thats a big woman to freze.Also ur pick kinda scares me.I like the (outside the box) thinking
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/8/2009 1:16 PM |
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Yeah I was talking the singer. He is tall and quite built - used to be a long haul trucker before singing. He has done some low budget Lifetime cowboy "movies" lately. Queen Latifa was more a half-hearted joke as I could not think of a curvaceous black woman to play Mildred. Gabrielle Union would be a better choice but I do not think she has the curves for Mildred. Maybe some creative coustume fitting would solve the lack of curves. I always pictured Mildred with more of a Puerto Rican/Brazilian ghetto booty. Maybe we could wish for a Brazilian ex-model to play Mildred.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/8/2009 8:40 PM |
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Yeah I agree that ol'Kris Kristoferson was awesome as Whistler in the Blade flicks!(would be a perfect Trader!)
I think that Sam Elliot would make a better Trader than a JB Dix as he is a bit too old for JB?(IMO)
Gabrielle Union is so incredibly hot that she gets my vote for Mildred!!!I think she has more of the kind of curves I like than Mildreds character has!LOL! "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 8/8/2009 8:42 PM |
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Kerry Washington as Mildred anyone ? Kerry Washington
Maybe a little on the slim side but the curves are there... =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 8/8/2009 8:50 PM |
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Or maybe Raven-Symoné She has more of the curves of Mildred ? Raven-Symoné
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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Posted By One Eyed Vengance on 08 Aug 2009 01:14 AM
Hell Yes!! Kris Kristoferson is Trader!!!
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LJ based Trader on Harry Dean Stanton's
character "Brett" in Alien.
Harry Dean Stanton was his favourite actor and he used several permutations of
his name for characters in his DL books.
And now even more so I think he would play a 1st class trader Harry Dean Stanton
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
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Jim I have to say I agree with you on all 3 counts.Kerry Washington.OMG yes I think she has curves to spare!Raven Simone?Equally gorgeous and a great choice as well.
Harry Dean Stanton?I loved him in "Red Dawn" and I remember him from Alien as well.He would make an outstanding Trader as well as Kris K. or Sam E.!!!
"Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/8/2009 10:05 PM |
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I would not have any problem with the other actors or actresses but I still think Gabrielle Union is effing hot!! Reminds me of the days when the Army was mostly concerned with SAmerica. I was posted to Rodman, Panama with the 193rd where I also attended jungle school after I went to the SOA - ladies like Gabrielle Union were all over the place. How about Brazilian hotties like Viviane Castro or Dani Sperle for Mildred?
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/8/2009 10:18 PM |
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Bro,you don't have to sell me on Gabrielle Union or South American women.I have been a musician and played in bands since I was 18(36 now)I have toured and released an album worldwide.My point is I have met more than a few ladies on the road and unfotrunatley the kind of music I play seems to attract mostly "white"girls.I myself (after marrying a native American/white woman)am seriouly hooked on latina's and hot ass African American women.I have had the privelage of dating only one of each and I am hooked on the exotic types you mentioned.I know we are way off topic man,just wanted to say yes,you are right!Gabrielle Union is Effing hot!!!
"Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/9/2009 12:23 AM |
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Some exotic woman for Mildred would be nice. it has been a while since I read the beginning of the series (probably should some day) and I can not remember which book Dean makes his appearance. Who would play Dean? Please no Harry Potter wanna-bees!! I always like Dean and was sorry to see his departure. Never cared much for Jack as a character but I guess somebody could play him with enough make up. My wife is Mexican-American (born in E LA) so I am hooked on exotic women particularly from SA, Brazil and Argentina.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/9/2009 2:13 AM |
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"Seedling" is Dean's first apperance bro.Hahah.Great minds think alike huh man?Dark eyes, dark hair,and dark skin! Yeah,my ex wife ruined me on blondes forever!I am obsessed with Latina's and Native American women cause of her.Blonde's do nothing for me and I am a tattooed Rock n/Roller type with light brown hair and blue eyes(German Descent)so I only attract "white chics"for the most part.I envy you my friend!!!
Back on topic:You really don't like Jak all that much?He is my next Fav character next to Ryan.I agree that Dean was a cool character,I quit reading the books when my dad commited suicide(he is the one who got me into them)so I completely missed what went down with Dean.
If not too personal a question man how old are you?You listed alot of action you have seen so I am figuring you to be at least as old as I am?(36)No offense intended man,just curious? "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
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No never did care for Jak - too much Man-Friday for me. My fav character is JB with whom I have many things in common. I have a AA in Gun Smithing and may someday put my shingle up. I am blind as the proverbial shite-house bat without my glasses, and favor short-range weapons such as pump shotguns and SMGs although I am no slouch at range either. I just prefer to get close and hose the enemy so there is no doubt that he has been removed from the gene pool. Sorry to hear about your father. BTW I am 42, and have brown eyes and hair with a few SF & Airborn tats plus the names of my children and memorium to my best friend KIA in Iraq '04.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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Joshua John Miller would (in my opinion) have made a good Dean but he's a little too old for the part now. Then again he may make a good Ryan now ? HERE JJM played "Homer" in the 1987 film "Near Dark". Check out his older pictures at IMDB (above) and see what I mean about Ryan. =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
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Thanks for the info bro.I figured you were a little older cause of all the action you have seen.I am very impressed.I have nothing in my right eye(totally blind) and once wore a patch(haha)so Thats why I am such a Ryan Cawdor fan.I am also very sorry about your friend who was KIA in Iraq!Thanks for saying that about my dad by the way.If it is not too personal what was your buddies name?I am not real religious but I would like to honor him next time I pray.I don't wanna sound like an ass kiss but I have minor combat exp so compared to you guy's I am honored to know you.I could not hack the extra 3 months of airbourne(Ranger School) like you,or any SF shit bro!(is it still 3 mons. or longer?)
I get it about JB being your man.I think of myself as a bit of a JB Dix as I like to think I know a little about guns.I agree with wanting good CQB weapons.I have little exp. with my mossberg but have used a Mac 10 in .45 cal.I would want the new HK UMP .45 if doing room clearing.
Jim,i will Definetly check that guy you listed out.Thanks for the info too my Brit friend.
"Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/9/2009 11:12 PM |
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Pat was his name - he was my best friend and did not have to drive the day that killed him and injured me and the kid above us in the .50 cal pit. He volunteered to drive that day to be with me as we were real close. The guy that would have been driving that day later commited suicide because he felt so bad about it. You can not beat a good pump action shotgun for CQB esp with a short barrel (mine is 14") which is a NFA weap other than Fed issue. Feed it good buck 00 or better and at least 1 oz slugs. Saw many a bad ass Mujahideen run when he heard the pump action. He knew it would send him to Allah now!! The Benelli was a good shot gun too but will not cycle non-lethal ammo reliably. SInce we do not allways want to kill the Mujahideen we went back to the pump Mossburgs & Remingtons.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/9/2009 11:50 PM |
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Man I can't tell you how sorry I am.My best friend Marv went and fought in Iraq in 91,comes home without a scratch,then gets himself shot over a woman by pointing an empy .40 cal.S&W at the cops.They shot him in the shoulder with a .40 cal hydrashok rd from a Sig P226.He has been paralyzed from the chest down since 1998.
I really feel for your loss and I am cracking a beer now for Pat and Marv,and your driver who killed himself too.(as well as saying a prayer later)
I will take your advice about the 12 gauge for CQB.I already prefer OO buck and 3 inch slugs so thanks alot man.
I am wanting to get the Mossberg 500 with a fixed stock.I have the Persuader with a pistol grip.
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JettaManDanBasic Member Posts:252
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no the M4 Benelli is not made for very light rounds..wasn't a requirement when it was designed... (i'm not telling how i know - so a i can see a pump being better in those situations for rubber bullets or bean bags... sorry about your loss...i can't even imagine how that must feel, and for the other guy to commit suicide over it makes it even worse...trully saddened by your loss bud... Why do i see James Alexander (George from Seinfeld) as J.B.? I know he isn't a hard-ass type of guy but i see him in the fedora and the glasses of course...but minus a few pounds.... I see Christian Bale as Trader with no hair maybe.... |
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
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Christian Bale would be a good Ryan (IMO)Dan.
I think ol George Castanza would make me laugh too much to take him serious as JB?You never know huh???
We need some hardcore old Fucker like Kris Kristoferson(as our buddy Scourge say's)or Harry Dean Stanton(Jim's)Maybe even Sam Elliot?(one o'you guy's said that?) "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/11/2009 2:58 PM |
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I believe I am the one that mentioned Sam Elliot. I think Christian Bale is too much a Prima Donna and his salary would be too much for this movie. Work on your Portuguese and take the music on the road for a Latin America tour and you would be surprised. Those Brazilias love skinny white boys with tattoos that can Puerto. Quite a few of the girls in the termas speak either Spanish as well as English and Portuguese. Hopefully if this movie comes out it will be worth seeing. Only reason I saw the one from SciFi channel is I had cable at the time.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
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That's is correct sir it was you who mentioned ol Sam Elliot.
Thank's for the advice about touring in SA!I am already trying to learn Espaniol for the Chica's!!!How did you know I was "Skinny White Boy w/Tattoo's?Hahaha!!!(Not so skinny as in 20's)Now I gotta upload a pic so you can see how accurately you got my number bro.LOL.They speak Portuguese in Brazil right and not Spanish?
Oh yeah,
I watched that horrible Sci-Fi DL joke cause I had cable too. "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/11/2009 3:30 PM |
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Yeah Portuguese is the most common language but if you speak spanish you can get buy. Since I am fluent in Spanish I did alright but my American accent seems to charm the Chicas in the termas!! I grew up on a working potato farm that my dad hired migrant workers who were all from Mexico. So I grew up speaking Spanish in the fields with the workers. When I (and my 2 brothers) got older it came in handy trying to get into the pants of the migrant worker's daughters! I think that is where I picked up my attraction for SA ladies. When my folks sold the farm I joined the Army and went into SF and got assigned to ol Panama partly because I was fluent in Spanish. I was in selection for the Green Berets when the first Gulf War broke out and never tried again as after that the demand for Spanish-speaking Green Berets plummeted but the demand for Middle Eastern languages soared. I just watched the latest Fast & Furious - there is some real eye candy in that movie.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/11/2009 4:22 PM |
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If bye "eye candy" you mean Michelle Rodriguze?OMG!!!
I will refraim from stating my thought's about her(drooling now)Damn man,once again you make a post and I learn that you can do something else I can't(shithead!)and your growing up on a farm and "Plowing"Chica's(Haha)is very cool!Much more interesting than my city boy in NKY life!Of course I bet I have done some things on the road with the band that might beat or maybe match you a bit?haha
And yes.I have a very bad fixation on black haired latina beauties.Only kinda porn I rent.LOL!!! "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/11/2009 5:36 PM |
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Yeah Michelle Rodriguze is hot! hot! hot! Never got a chance to plow one of the chicas from the farm - did not want to cause tension between my father (Jefe') and the workers. Now other farms were fair game. Still remember the "talk" with my father when he caught me and one of the young ladies behind the barn. Opened my eyes to why & when you should keep it in your pants. Never did get the city life much - too many people too close by - I need room to stretch. Not trying to one up anybody - bet there are some crazy things in the city to do too. Yeah we know all those rumors about bands being a bunch of pervs - got to be some truth to the rumors. Only problem living on post in senior NCO housing is that we share a wall with the neighbors. Found out they can hear us - oops!!!
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/11/2009 7:38 PM |
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Hahaha,yeah man I was only kidding.I know you are not trying to one up me bro.I am sorry but I would have plowed all the chica's.I have always gotten into trouble cause I ain't had the sense to keep it zipped.lol.Yeah,I have had a fixation on Michelle Rodriguze for years.She is one of the hottest women alive!!!
You are dead on about us band guy's.That whole "Sex/Drugs/&Rock n/Roll " thing is not just a cliche.It is a way of life I am afraid.I lived it for a long time.Nearly killed me!!!
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/12/2009 1:10 AM |
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I could do the sex and rock & roll but pass on the drugs. Never did take to dope and a career in the military has put the damper on ever trying it now. Although those of us that live in pain wish we could use medicinal marijuana but as we are government property we can not. The books surprise me with the lack of dope - I know that a few get mentioned, but I would think there would be more mj floating around. Maybe Gold Eagle does not want to risk getting in trouble with a highly juvenile audenience? I know that certain PG13 and PG movies removed all tobacco products to keep from encouraging kids to smoke & even Bond kicked the butt!! JB likes a good stogie (so do I when I can afford them - damn I miss living in Panama - Cuban cigars were as common as Marlboros) although if we are shooting for a PG13 rating might not be able to get tobacco in the script. The tweenies and slightly older kids are what is keeping movie theaters alive - old geezers like me will just wait until the DVD comes out. Although the DL books are not as pervy as some of the other post-apocalyptic stuff out there, they might have to tame down some of the other stuff to get it past the ratings.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/12/2009 5:01 PM |
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By no means was I trying to say drugs were good buddy.Like I said,it nearly killed me.I managed to stay clean until age 25 then I let my asshole singer say"go on pussy,do a line"and i finally caved.Ten years later(haha)I am sober now man.I never liked pot.But after getting injured I became addicted to PainKillers,I think that is pretty common with some vets too.I admire you that you have never done dope bro.More power to you.
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/12/2009 6:43 PM |
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Yeah some injured vets can really get addicted - I was not thinking you were saying pot is good - personally I have no issue if someone wants smoke some herb - each to thier own poison. I am a severe type A personality with a strong dislike of any weakness (as I view them) in myself. I have a buddy from a sister platoon that took a round through the left plexus nerve cluster rendering his left arm useless. He is in constant pain and is hooked on pain killers. When the docs were putting me together I got chewed out because I am so adament against drugs and my fear of becomming an addict I was not taking my pain medicine. With all the pharms out there putting billions of pills out you would think there would be a mother-lode of dope someone could sell. I remember Trader used to deal in some medicine - maybe Ryan and co can hit a lode of pain killers to trade.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/12/2009 9:46 PM |
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I have been told I have a type A personality by the shrinks too man.Only differance is I am obviously not as strong willed a man as you my friend.I admit that even now as we speak I am still hooked on pain meds.It is impossible to stop when you have chronic pain and they give them to you.
I took no offense bro and I knew what you meant by the way about pot.
"Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/13/2009 12:06 AM |
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I feel for you bro it is a rough spot to be in - cant stand the pain and cant stand the dope but need the dope to kill the pain enough to live. As another person that lives in some pain due to injuries I feel for you and wish you the best. I believe that someone has the right to look for the best solution to their pain. If that includes a little (or a lot) medicinal herb to cut back on the pain and opiates - than so be it. My mother in law has lupus and she makes her special "herbal" tea that we have to make sure no body gets into. When we visit in LA we have to make sure grandma's tea is well marked. Of course watching my mother-in-law and wife (wife is in the early stages of lupus) get basted was hysterical!
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/13/2009 5:21 PM |
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Thanks Scourge,that means alot coming from you man.I am very sorry about your wife and Mom's Lupus.A very good friend of mine I chat w/online from Austraila has it too.I know what you are saying about the pain and I am glad you said what you did and don't look down on me like I am weak or a loser.Thanks alot my SF buddy.
One small favor?If I ever get the chance to meet you you have gotta show me a few things as I am pretty proficient w/blades and aguns but nowhere near the pro that you are ok?I can teach you to play the guitar in exchange ok?LOL!Oh yeah,I would be happy to mail you a CD of my record that was released worldwide.Any chance you like the heavier music at all???(Pantera/Metallica)
"Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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nhdoucetteNew Member Posts:9
| 8/13/2009 10:07 PM |
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The following is my list that i think would make a good cast for a live action deathlands film:
Ryan Cawdor: Hugh Jackman
Dean Cawdor: Open to Suggestions
Krysty Wroth: Rachel Lutrell
JB Dix: Micheal Shanks or Quentin Tarantino
Mildred Wyeth: Open to Suggestions
Jak Lauren: Tom Felton
Doc Tanner: Hugh Laurie
The Trader: Kris Kristofferson or Harvey Keitel
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/13/2009 11:19 PM |
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I actually love to teach - and have studied knife fighting in Krav Maga and karate. One of my favorite tours of duty was teaching Ranger school hand to hand combat. We are one of the few SF units other than the Commandos and Delta that teach hand to hand to all soldiers. I can't carry a tune in a bucket and never had much luck with instruments. I am very ecletic in my music and although I listen to mostly country, I love heavy metal. Metallica is one of my favorite as well as SOAD. When you spend 15 months in the desert it seems that no matter how many gigs of music is loaded on your MP3 you are going to crave new music. In our Stryker (and our CSV before) we hot wired the interior communication system to either a CD or MP3 player to play music while we roll along. Although about the only thing I can not listen to is rap, I have listened to alot of black music as the black brothers get to play thier music as well. After a while we listened to anything that was new. I am always open to new music. I bet if they make a new DL movie it will probably be set to heavy metal or hard rock.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/14/2009 7:58 AM |
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Good taste in music too bro.Metallica is the reason I had long hair from age 14 to age 27 and the first cassete I ever bought was Metallica "Master Of Puppets"in 1986!I think you mean S.O.D.(Storm Troopers of Death)?
Well I can always teach you how to use the Nuinchukas instead of the guitar.lol!!!I have some good new's man.That SA tour you said I need to do may just actually become a reality!I have been in e-mail contact with the owner and pres.of my old record label(Leviathan)and he says if I get a new vocalist(he loves music which I write 100%,but hates the singer)He will be interested in signing my band America's Nightmare to a full worldwide recording/promo/and distribution deal!(that name is not anti-USA in any way bro,it is just a play on how the American Dream goes wrong alot is all)
BTW NHDoucette,those are all excellent picks for the movie. "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/15/2009 1:08 AM |
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I grew up on Willy & the Stones. My dad listens to old country and my momma listens to rock.In high school I listened to Dio, AC/DC, Iron Maiden, and really liked the Ramones and some punk like the Circle Jerks. First album I bought was Aerosmith Toys in the Attic on 8 track!! SOAD is for System of a Down - one of my kids in my 3rd squad is a SOAD freak and we listen to quite a bit of their music when his turn is up to load the MP3/CD player. A lot of the termas play a lot of American heavy metal - last time I was down in Ipanema (my uncle has a friend owns a condo there) they were still playing American grunge too!! It is a rough place to be and want to remain faithful - thank god I was still single then!!
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/15/2009 2:44 AM |
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With the exception of the Circle Jerks I listen to every band you just named bro.I like System of a Down too.I grew up on Old Metallica/Dio.Maiden/Motley Crue.Pantera and S/O/D/.as well as Led Zeppelin andBlack Sabbath.I love the Ramones and The stones as well as Creedence too man!
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/15/2009 10:22 PM |
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Ozzie will always be one of my favorite musicians. It was awsome seeing him at Ozfest. Talk about the poster child for why you do not do hard drugs. While I bet a movie such as we are discussing will have some kind of rock music score, one of the best things about the latest mediocre Iron Man movie was the Black Sabbath song, of course "Iron Man."
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/15/2009 10:48 PM |
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Mediocre?I though IM rocked!
I agree though that Iron Man by Sabbath made that movie!!! "Molon Labe"........"Come And Take Them"
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 8/15/2009 10:54 PM |
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I thaught IM was OK - but since I have been reading it since IM looked like a gray walking pot-bellied stove, maybe I was expecting too much. I still have some of my old Magalogs that featured IM in some of his earliest incarnations. I do not think there was really any other song more fitting than that when he comes out of the cave. Another turkey of a movie was the Dukes of Hazard remake. Only good things were Jessica Simpson' ass, the General Lee, and the music which was mostly old AC/DC.
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One Eyed Vengeance (Leonidas)Basic Member Posts:337
| 8/15/2009 11:00 PM |
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Yeah,I been reading IM since about 1980.
That Dukes Of Hazzard movie was a turd.Jessica Simpson normally is not my type(blonde an all)but I will make an exception for her ass and boobs.haha
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Girl's Gun's & Guitar'sNew Member Posts:16 
| 9/20/2009 4:35 AM |
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I think Hugh Jackman is perfect for Ryan,Ali Larter(Res Evil 3)for Krysty,
Any sexy curvaceous black woman for Mildred (Vivica A Fox)
Ian Mckellan (X-Men L.O.T.R.'s) as Doc Tanner?
J.B.???
Jak???
"What We Do In Life Echoes In Eternity"
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Girls Guns & GuitarsNew Member Posts:12 
| 9/20/2009 10:48 PM |
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Is this topic dead?
Seems interesting to me.Any thoughts on my picks? "What We Do In Life Echoes In Eternity".......General Maximus Desmond Meridius of The Felix Legions
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 9/22/2009 2:23 PM |
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I am not sure about it being dead - but maybe we flogged this dead equine already?
Your picks were great - Ms Fox is hot!!!
I would still rather see some crusty old dude like Sam Elliot play JB rather than somebody like Bruce Willis.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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Posted By Scourge on 22 Sep 2009 02:23 PM
I am not sure about it being dead - but maybe we flogged this dead equine already?
Oh no, you sound like an old timer  with a comment like that. Be careful you don't get flamed for daring to say a thread has been played out... ...Remember that new members may not have read the previous 4 posts here   ...Jim ducks for cover... =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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I shall don my asbestos underwear but do not mind getting reminded that some people do not read all the previous posts. Would be nice if someone did read all the previous posts in every thread - might ease some misconceptions.
Not sure if we even have a chance of seeing another one of these even on the SciFi channel or direct to DVD.
I understand the last one did not do so well, and doubt that SciFi channel would want to invest in another likely low-return show when they are looking for a replacement to BSG which was hugely popular.
Despite our enjoyment of the various DL books, they are not huge sellers with large (enough) following unlike Nora Roberts, Stephen King, James Patterson, etc.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 9/23/2009 11:45 PM |
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I admit as an American I find English humor either very funny (Red Dwarf, Shaun of the Dead) or very droll.
For me the BBC has either very good shows (Island at War) or stuff that I would rather not see.
I do however like a lot of English documentaries and some sit coms and wish we (the States) would get more episodes of Island at War, Foyle's War, and Jonathan Creek. Season 5 of Foyle's War finally hit our shores while season 6 is out in the UK and season 7 is filming.
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197 
| 9/24/2009 7:59 AM |
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By and large I have been finding British SF genre TV to be outstanding as of late with shows like Doctor Who, Torchwood, and Primeval. With the exception of BSG nothing comes close.
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner  Commander In Chief Posts:864 
| 9/24/2009 8:10 AM |
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The latest Torchwood series was great up until the ending, where it felt like Russel T. Davies was just breaking all of his toys out of spite before handing over the production to Steven Moffat. On the upside, Moffat pretty much gets a clean slate to work with, and he has proven with stories like "Blink", "The Empty Child / The Doctor Dances", "The Girl in the Fireplace", and "Silence in the Library / The Forest of the Dead" that he gets the Doctor Who universe far better than any other writer out there today.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
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"Americans can't understand British humor, therefore you must be an American" is an argument with a faulty opening premise and is equivalent to: if your teeth are a trainwreck and your complexion like an unbaked pepperoni pizza, you must be English.
Get over yourself. You're not Little Britain, you're not even Benny Hill.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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Posted By AP on 24 Sep 2009 11:00 AM
"Americans can't understand British humor, therefore you must be an American"
. You said it not me, I just agreed with your statement. I have nothing to get over, it is you that is getting all hot under the collar about a comment I made not even aimed at you. =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
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So, you don't understand the implications of your own words? Why isn't that surprising?
I assure you I'm not the least bit "hot under the collar." (If I was hot under the collar, you'd be skinless at this point.) Like I said, get over yourself. |
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OutlandersVeteran Member Posts:163 
| 9/24/2009 2:08 PM |
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*sigh* C'mon people, can't we all get along?
Yeah, I know, quit being a hypocrite (spelling?), since I've been known to be less than pleasant at times, but now that we've gotten rid of (hopefully for good) the latest piece of crap who kept coming back time and again, shouldn't we just concentrate on being civil to one another and just get along?
The constant arguing and fighting does really get tiresome, and I hope that those who are involved feel the same way.
Don't make me go all Kung Fu on your collective butts... =)
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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Posted By AP on 24 Sep 2009 01:29 PM
I assure you I'm not the least bit "hot under the collar." (If I was hot under the collar, you'd be skinless at this point.) Like I said, get over yourself.
Gosh, I'm scared... ...oh and bored. =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 9/24/2009 6:25 PM |
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Posted By Outlanders on 24 Sep 2009 02:08 PM
*sigh* C'mon people, can't we all get along?
The constant arguing and fighting does really get tiresome, and I hope that those who are involved feel the same way.
Don't make me go all Kung Fu on your collective butts... =)
Chris
Did I argue? Nope. Was I aiming my original comment at Alan ? Again Nope. Did he put his nose in and stir the sh!t where it was not needed -again, a big OH YES !! I can't help it if he has no sense of humour or is unable to appreciate sarcasm. I do have to agree with him that Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit... ...but the highest form of intelligence =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
| 9/24/2009 6:43 PM |
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Yeah, you are blameless and the King of Mirth. (FYI, that's sarcasm.) But Chris is right. Over and out.
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 9/24/2009 10:18 PM |
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I have not caught many of the Doctor Who maybe I will check it out with a new writer. Have not caught any Torchwood or Primeval episodes yet although both look interesting. Unless AFRTS starts to show them I might get the discs from Netflix when I get around to it. I have been watching the first three seasons of Burn Notice right now and have been enjoying them so far.
I was prepared to hate the new BSG especially with Starbuck as a woman - but was quite suprised and enjoyed the series. I was 11 when the original series was on TV and loved them as a kid.
I mentioned that I would vote for Tricia Helfer with a dye job to play Kristie in a new DL movie although to do her hair right might have to go CGI.
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Harry Whittleberry 2Basic Member Posts:116
| 9/26/2009 7:28 AM |
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Posted By Scourge on 24 Sep 2009 10:18 PM
I was prepared to hate the new BSG especially with Starbuck as a woman - but was quite suprised and enjoyed the series. I was 11 when the original series was on TV and loved them as a kid.
You say you enjoyed the original BSG series back when you were 11 in 1978. You also stated in a previous post that you took part in the invasion of Grenada in Oct-Dec 1983. This would make you 17 when you took part in the Grenada operation -yes ? Do the math. 1983 - 1978 = 6 years (age 11 in 1978 plus 6 years = 17) Since when did the Army start sending kids into battle ? You have to be age 18 to enter a combat zone ? Hmmm... |
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 9/26/2009 3:44 PM |
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Umm, actually I think that would be five years...
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 9/26/2009 7:15 PM |
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Yep turned 12 in August 1978, so you are correct I misspoke and was actually 12 when the series hit the TV in my area, in September or so.
Turned 17 in August of '83 (in my recruiter's car on the way to the Gray Hound station), invasion was in October of '83. Not sure about the age of entry into combat (ask Mike), but yes I was 17 in Grenada. I was fresh from 'boot and it was my first deployment.
I was still a green infantry recruit fresh from AIT. I do not believe the Army was expecting any serious resistance, but I spent most the time humping shells for the M102s at the airport and dodging craters in the runway the engineers blew.
Most of the fighting was done by the 82nd and 75th Rangers, although much like Somalia I hear rumors there were SEALs there, but I did not see any. Did not do much in Grenada because I came in with the later bunch as the (rumored) SF guys were leaving. We had a whole company of Cubans nearby that kept us entertained.
Funny it was Grenada that got me interested in other fields in the Army.
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 9/27/2009 7:03 AM |
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I'll tell you what dude, let's make a deal, don't provoke or invoke me and you can spin your tales until you're blue in the face.
If anyone out there want to believe you that's their business. The majority of the crowd who did are mostly gone anyway. The rest of us aren't convinced or impressed, so knock yourself out.
(Incidentally, it's slightly more than a rumor that the Navy SEALS were in Grenada.
Team Six rather famously performed the rescue of Governor Sir Paul Scoon and tragically lost four members during a night water jump.
This was dramatized on the outstanding TLC series Navy SEALs: The Untold Stories narrated by Peter Coyote. This is rerun often and available on DVD in the bargain section of most Wal-Marts.
But I would imagine a seasoned operator such as yourself would know all that.)
If you actually want me to keep pointing out holes in your stories, I'll be glad to do that as well. It's entirely up to you LOL!
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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ScourgeNew Member Posts:65
| 9/27/2009 1:26 PM |
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I never caught the TLC series - but thanks for the info. I said "I never saw any" but guess you missed that.
Mike, I was merely referring to your Army expertise although you have never served a day or walked in my boots. I can read Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun’s biography and talk to his descendents and relatives – does not make me a rocket scientist.
As for me "telling" my tales I was asked point-blank. Do not like the answer? Do not ask the questions that are likely to displease you.
Of course you believe everything you read or see on TV?
Prior to 1994-ish there was little if poor cooperation between the forces, as proven quite well in Somalia. The four services had grown apart and used very different comms equip and it was in later years that quite a bit of effort was put in to cohesive deployment.
You have not poked any holes but merely showed your bias – and have misconstrued or ignored my posts to suit your desires. Mike you have put your uncle and others in your family on such a high pedestal that any one else could never hope to compare. I hope you get some enjoyment out of attacking someone you do not know from Adam.
I visit this site to discuss some interesting books and ideas not get attacked and belittled for every post I make (remember the Zed comment?). While I can afford the minutes on the Crackberry while I am on post, it is getting tedious and there is no merit arguing with someone on the 'net.
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 9/27/2009 3:55 PM |
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LOL! Every post you make furthers my point. I have no desire to waste one more second of time on you Audie, but if you want to continue to drag me into it, I'll be glad to "attack and belittle" you further.
I've said my piece. Don't drop my name and you can "Commander McBragg" yourself to the "Cool-guys" until the camouflage cows come home.
Feel free to continue to drop as many acronyms, buzzwords, and military catch phrases as you want and let the folks here decide for themselves.
I'm convinced you are not authentic and disservice every person who has served this country, but at this point I'll gladly leave you alone to your own devices if you don't try and provoke me.
Or give me some proof and I'll damn well spit shine your combat boots from here to eternity...or admit you are "just kidding" and we'll all have a good old belly laugh over a cold Pabst Blue Ribbon...
(Now if you'll excuse me I have to go put away my Offical Austin Powers Fake Chest-Hair Wig...)
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 2/2/2010 8:53 PM |
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How about the kid from 3rd Rock from the Sun playin Dean?You know Ryan's son.
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
| 2/2/2010 11:12 PM |
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"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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DiabloBasic Member Posts:125
| 2/6/2010 1:10 AM |
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Your right Ron...I was way off on that one.....Can I call a "mulligan"? or like we say down here a "what the f$#k"
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BKSFLDR8RMANNew Member Posts:43 
| 2/6/2010 5:49 PM |
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How did you get thru boot camp and AIT so fast. I went in July 5 1983 and completed AIT just after they invated Granada. How did you do it so fast?
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BKSFLDR8RMANNew Member Posts:43
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Posted By BKSFLDR8RMAN on 06 Feb 2010 05:49 PM
How did you get thru boot camp and AIT so fast. I went in July 5 1983 and completed AIT just after they invated Granada. How did you do it so fast? So how did you do it so fast? You went in one month after me and graduated one month before me. So how did you do it? |
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 4/30/2010 5:38 PM |
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I think that poser is long gone...
"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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RYAN'S BASTARD SONNew Member Posts:71 
| 5/11/2010 8:32 PM |
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Posted By mikeclr on 30 Apr 2010 05:38 PM
I think that poser is long gone... Well now thats all done, I hate to disagree with the guy who started this thread and the others who all say Hugh Jackman for Ryan,but Hugh is simply too short! Ryan is supposed to stand 6'2". Otherwise Hugh would have been fantastic. The boy who plays Lucius Malfoy (white hair) would be great as Jak. Rebecka Rominjn for Kristy. Perhaps Gerard Butler for Ryan? (he is tall enough) I love Vivica A fox for Mildred. Doc eter Fonda or Donal Sutherland? Trader:Scott Glenn J.B. Dix:any skinny short guy w/glasses who can act? Dean:The werefolf kid Jacob Black from Twilight? "Looks Like We Time Trawled Us A Real Triple Dickhead"
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mikeclrBasic Member Posts:197
| 5/23/2010 1:03 PM |
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"Courage is not a man with a gun in his hand. It's knowing you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what." - Atticus Finch
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RYAN'S BASTARD SONNew Member Posts:71
| 5/24/2010 5:00 PM |
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"Looks Like We Time Trawled Us A Real Triple Dickhead"
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NicodemusNew Member Posts:17 
| 5/30/2010 4:15 PM |
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If only a movie was made 5/10 years ago.
A Indiana Jones Harrison Ford would have been perfect for JB, Fedora hat and all
Not to mention Clint Eastwood chomping a cigar as The Trader!
The problem lies in how do you make all these books a movie series/tv series?
Where do you start? Wheres the intro?
5- minutes to setup the backround of the holocaust, what happened at skydark, how north america changed and current conditions..
Then do you get straight to mcCandess(forgot how to spell his name) and his excursion into the Darks or Scale and his gang eying Traders massive convoy.
One qualm I disliked about the books was that we got so little of Traders life and how he built his war wags and the missions he went on etc while bringing some kindness to people who needed it and chilling the slaggers who needed that..
theres so many different directions one could take this.
If done properly it could actually be a pretty massive hit in the mainstream.....but it must be done properly, and not like that 2003 movie. |
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 5/30/2010 4:57 PM |
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Posted By Nicodemus on 30 May 2010 04:15 PM
One qualm I disliked about the books was that we got so little of Traders life and how he built his war wags and the missions he went on etc while bringing some kindness to people who needed it and chilling the slaggers who needed that..
Trader was written as an Enigma, someone who Ryan aspired to be. He chose to keep his past a secret revealing only what he wanted people to know but making it so fantastic you never knew if he was telling the truth or telling some sor tor elaborate tale. Even his original disapearance was shrouded in mystery, was he ill, did he choose to disappear? Who knows. I once asked Lawrence if Trader was maybe some sort of military freezie, as he knew so much about the location of redoubts and all sorts of tech. Again -like trader, Lawrence just told me "...who knows, maybe one day we will find out. But would you believe him if he said he was..." =============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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NicodemusNew Member Posts:17
| 5/30/2010 5:18 PM |
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I know, and thats EXACTLY why it bothered me so much, because my curiosity was massivly peaked.
Trader remained my favourite character due to that shrouded mystery surrounding him.
The idea of him being a military Freezie is a good one, but I like the thought of him being in his late teens with his friend marsh and running from cannies or w.e, stumbling into a stockpile....and slowly uncovering secrets and knowledge about the predark world, growing from what he was conditioned(getting as much jack as possible and trading weapons) into more of a robin hood type character so to speak...thus beginning the legend of THE trader, and not just any trader. He was a hardass, but a hardass who was fair when warrented, and not geedy and lusting for power like all the others.
Maybe Marsh folsom was the freezie instead? didnt he know all about computers, reading, writing, how to use lat/long and UTM on maps? ...just a thought
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RYAN'S BASTARD SONNew Member Posts:71
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Posted By Nicodemus on 30 May 2010 04:15 PM
If only a movie was made 5/10 years ago.
A Indiana Jones Harrison Ford would have been perfect for JB, Fedora hat and all
Not to mention Clint Eastwood chomping a cigar as The Trader!
The problem lies in how do you make all these books a movie series/tv series?
Where do you start? Wheres the intro?
5- minutes to setup the backround of the holocaust, what happened at skydark, how north america changed and current conditions..
Then do you get straight to mcCandess(forgot how to spell his name) and his excursion into the Darks or Scale and his gang eying Traders massive convoy.
One qualm I disliked about the books was that we got so little of Traders life and how he built his war wags and the missions he went on etc while bringing some kindness to people who needed it and chilling the slaggers who needed that..
theres so many different directions one could take this.
If done properly it could actually be a pretty massive hit in the mainstream.....but it must be done properly, and not like that 2003 movie. I agree 100% that the Trader is the most interesting character equal to Ryan alone. I think this thread says at the beginning that it needs to be done way better than the 2003 movie as you state. Clint Eastwood would have been perfect as the trader (like he was in Unforgiven) But I think Harrison Ford is not nerdy enough for JB.lol. "Looks Like We Time Trawled Us A Real Triple Dickhead"
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
| 5/31/2010 3:53 PM |
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My guess is that in LJ's eyes he saw Trader as being Harry Dean Stanton -his favorite actor.
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
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RYAN'S BASTARD SONNew Member Posts:71
| 6/1/2010 5:22 AM |
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Posted By )3az )3aziah on 31 May 2010 03:53 PM
My guess is that in LJ's eyes he saw Trader as being Harry Dean Stanton -his favorite actor. I have seen him in many movies,but only one role comes to mind offhand. I remember a rather dramatic "Avenge Me Boys,Avenge Me!" in the movie: "Red Dawn". He was in a Russian concentration camp during their occupation in Colorado. "Looks Like We Time Trawled Us A Real Triple Dickhead"
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
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RYAN'S BASTARD SONNew Member Posts:71
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Posted By )3az )3aziah on 01 Jun 2010 11:04 AM
He played
Brett in Alien (1979)
Brain in Escape from New York (1981)
Toot Toot in Green Mile (1999)
and around 168 other parts from 1954 onwards...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001765/
This photo from IMDB just shouts TRADER...
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm772905472/nm0001765
Now that you mention it I remember him very well as "Brain" in Escape from New York (my fav John Carpenter film/Kirk Russell role) I also remember him in "Alien". Like I said,at the time the only role I could recall was the one in "Red Dawn". I did not imply that he did not play numerous other roles. I am aware he has an extensive career. Thanks for the link, I am going there now. "Looks Like We Time Trawled Us A Real Triple Dickhead"
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NicodemusNew Member Posts:17
| 6/3/2010 4:12 AM |
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I think Harrison Ford playing a Indiana Jones like character wouldnt be too nerdy for Jb...remember in the Holy Grail, where it showed him in the classroom with glasses and him ranting on antiquity and how X never ever marks the spot?
That would be perfect imho.
Just replace the whip with his shotgun, ad upgrade the revolver to a Uzi
But this discussion is moot, as he's surely too old now.
Quick question, wasnt there a animated deathlands clip somewhere online some years ago? I completly forgot what it was called, but it was less then a minute long...showed someone riding a wag at ryan on a clif edge, and ryan and krysty shooting it or something.
This was really ancient though, I was only entering my teens when I first saw it.
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RYAN'S BASTARD SONNew Member Posts:71
| 6/4/2010 11:23 AM |
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I meant Harrison ford was too masculine and too large/tall of a man to play JB as JB is supossed to be short and skinny/scrawny.
You have a good point though,Harrison did look bookwormish and nerdy as a professor teaching in the Indiana Jones movie.
I love Harrison Ford as an actor. personally.
I just think he is too old now, as I think someone else already said.
Jb is supposed to be 35/37 correct? "Looks Like We Time Trawled Us A Real Triple Dickhead"
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