Basically ANYTHING created or Bastardised by Nick P.

Hell hounds
Flapjacks -what a stupid idea AND name
Krakens (sp?)

You name it, if he has done it then its bound to be total sh!te

Flapjacks?

Wasn't there a racoyote or coycoon in one of books over the last five years?

I also remember somebody referencing--in a not very complimentary fashion--about crapions...a cross between a crab and a scorpion.

Posted By The Phantom on 10 Oct 2011 04:45 PM
Flapjacks?

 There is info on them on the wiki under flora and fauna, check it out and see how lame they are yourself. I think the idea is a jellyfish/vampiric? crossbreed.

Posted By Jax2 on 10 Oct 2011 05:25 PM
Wasn't there a racoyote or coycoon in one of books over the last five years?

I also remember somebody referencing--in a not very complimentary fashion--about crapions...a cross between a crab and a scorpion.

Surely Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By Jax2 on 10 Oct 2011 05:25 PM
Wasn't there a racoyote or coycoon in one of books over the last five years?

I think there is a beast of that nature on the cover of Death Hunt.

More fantasy than nature, but there it is.

What about the famous Water Beetle People ?

i like all the mutes that are in the books it is gud for ryan and them to fight new things as it stops the books gettin boring all the time.

Posted By Jax2 on 10 Oct 2011 05:25 PM
Wasn't there a racoyote or coycoon in one of books over the last five years?

I also remember somebody referencing--in a not very complimentary fashion--about crapions...a cross between a crab and a scorpion.

You're probably talking about the ones from Savage Armada: the companions are attacked by "a horde of creatures that are a combination of crab, spider, and scorpion. They have a crab's hard blue shell and pincers, twin scorpion tails, and a spider's mandibles along with the ability to spit a substance that hardens on contact with air (similar to webbing, but used to entrap prey). They range in size from 3 to 6 feet across and are intelligent enough to be organized and use crude tactics in battle." (That's from the wiki.)

The bioweapons are kinda of a cool idea... but Pollotta uses them in every book. I could see the Marshall Islands being used as a place for experimenting with all sorts of absurd life forms (it's isolated, so anything that gets out won't get far), but they keep popping up in the most ridiculous places.

Posted By Harry Whittleberry 2 on 12 Oct 2011 04:31 AM
i like all the mutes that are in the books it is gud for ryan and them to fight new things as it stops the books gettin boring all the time.

I can't agree with you on this one. LJ's books had very few mutated animals, plants & people in them besides Stickies, Scalies and Scabies and he made the stories different and somewhat interesting without them. When they did appear they were just a pain in the arse diversion for a few pages onot chapter after chapter of filler that the new bunch use as a way of cutting down on main story content.

I think the multi-mutie problem set in when NP started writing them and he took DL from the post-holocaust adventure series it was into the realms of more science fiction based. It was also around this time that almost every ville, pest hole, and tramp the group met had perfect working order, spot on condition weapons that were all 100+ years old. Not likely really unless every one had access to the redoubts and stockpiles that Ryan, J.B & Trader spent so many hard years trying to find.

I guess the fact that everyone has a military spec. weapon on the outside is the reason why the team never find any weapons and ammo in a redoubt anymore, the locals have already beaten them to it each and every time

I haven't posted in well over a year, probably closer to two, but I'll put in my two cents here.

I recently had a book published called Creatures of the Tropical wastes via Skirmisher publishing and a lot of the mutants that they describe here are something that I would have written up for my Mutant future work.

http://www.rpgnow.com/pro...hp?products_id=92943

The simple fact is that Deathlands has always had bizarre mutant creatures and that was one of the things that originally attracted me to the series, way back when I was in high school. Back then I was also into RPG's such as Gamma World (which Mutant Future is simply a retro-clone of).

So, yes, the infamous Waterbeetle people were pretty much the worst I had seen, honestly if it was written for a game like Gamma World or Mutant Future, these critters would fit right in.

I'm guessing that ole' Nick probably played a lot of that when he was younger or used that stuff for inspiration.

And yeah, I'm posting for a selfish reason too... it's called promoting my work. I've got no less than three more books coming out in the foreseeable future, as well as a weekly ezine for Mutant Future (with one other author), and there is of course my Zombie trilogy that I'm hoping to get picked up and published through Permuted Press. I'm about half way through writing the second book at this time.

Chris

Stoneface introduced the concept that many--if not most--of the human mutations were probably the product of genetic engineering.

Not the perfect solution, but at least it added a solid scientific basis to what had hitherto been fantasy, ideas and creatures borrowed from bad 1950s sci-fi movies.

I further refined the bio-engineering idea throughout Outlanders--and the more numerous and biologically impossible they became in DL, as a deliberate counterpoint, the fewer in number and less ridiculous they became in Outlanders.

I'm one of those iconoclasts who subscribe to the notion that if you're writing science-fiction, you need to have some genuine scientific principles sprinkled in with the fiction.

just been on the graphic audio website previewing "apocolypse unborn" and there seems to be something called a "woozie" half gator half condor!!!

Posted By silentalbino on 16 Oct 2011 10:55 AM
just been on the graphic audio website previewing "apocolypse unborn" and there seems to be something called a "woozie" half gator half condor!!!

NO? Please tell me you are making this up?

Jim

No, he's not. And even better, they're playing "Ride of the Valkyries" while this is going on.

To be fair, though, the birds are described has having beaks, not mouths. Birds are also descended from reptiles, so a half-reptile hybrid makes a bit of sense. Maybe the book has a better description?

yea Flapjacks has to be the worst.Why are they allways fallin from trees when they have no way of gettin back up in the tree after they have fallin on something?

Maybe they're like slugs or snails.

it wuld be a bit stupid if they was like slugs as if they fell out of the tree and missed it wuld take a lot of energy for them to climb back up to try again and by then what they had tried to eat had gone away. they cud stave to death befor another chance came under them. really silly mutie.

Posted By Kerrick on 17 Oct 2011 08:20 AM
No, he's not. And even better, they're playing "Ride of the Valkyries" while this is going on.

To be fair, though, the birds are described has having beaks, not mouths. Birds are also descended from reptiles, so a half-reptile hybrid makes a bit of sense. Maybe the book has a better description?

Cripes, I hope so. A reminder to never listen to that GA dreck, not that I needed one.

It's not a "Woozie." It's a Wazl, named after my brother's three-legged dog, who can still standing-jump high enough to bite off the tip of your nose.
AP

Posted By Harry Whittleberry 2 on 26 Oct 2011 04:43 AM
it wuld be a bit stupid if they was like slugs as if they fell out of the tree and missed it wuld take a lot of energy for them to climb back up to try again and by then what they had tried to eat had gone away. they cud stave to death befor another chance came under them. really silly mutie.

There actually were slugs like that in Playfair's Axiom - they have some kind of air sac and can sense heat, so they drift down onto their victims, latch on, and drain blood. Presumably they can slither back up... but yeah, not very evolution-friendly.

Well I found the found the flapjacks lol, the beetle people were not that bad..

There was those mutie gophers that were telepathic and were fighting that armadillo & bear cross breed . I thought they were really weird.

Posted By twinsrule26 on 09 Nov 2011 12:39 AM
There was those mutie gophers that were telepathic and were fighting that armadillo & bear cross breed . I thought they were really weird.

What book was that in? And how much L.S.D had the writer taken beforehand

Posted By silentalbino on 05 Apr 2012 01:13 PM

Posted By twinsrule26 on 09 Nov 2011 12:39 AM
There was those mutie gophers that were telepathic and were fighting that armadillo & bear cross breed . I thought they were really weird.

What book was that in? And how much L.S.D had the writer taken beforehand

Hi the book was" Vengeance Trail" it came out in 2005 . I don't know who the author was or what he/she might have been on.

A Victor Milan novel. Thanks for the info Twins, as to what he was on I think Werewolf Weed or perhaps Joltski.

HAHAHA!! Probably smoking wolfweed and sniffing nightmare to come up with that.  As stated before, I LOVE DEATHLANDS, but telepathic gophers, yeah. That is lame.  Put down the pipe, Joseph Jordan!!! 

I really loved Vengeance Trail.

Yeah, the teddy bear/gopher thingamajigs were kinda stupid.

 

But, other than that, I really dug that book! 

Vengeance Trail, thats the one where some folks are trying to rebirth the US army, right? ( UBDA, The United Baronies of Deathlands Army)Haha imagine. Man, Deathlands still has a lot of good potential storylines. I was thinking maybe a southern racist gang tring to start up the Klan again, like mentioned in Crossways (Brodys School) although with all the problems that Deathlands has, seriously is racism still an issue? Just one of the many thoughts I have

Nah nae Racism just good old fashioned kill anybody you dont know on sight. Sound's like Glasgow!!

Not wanting to stir things up but isn't the mere fact that most "norms" hate "muties" a raw form of racism?

Jim

Posted By )3az )3aziah on 13 Apr 2012 05:56 PM
Not wanting to stir things up but isn't the mere fact that most "norms" hate "muties" a raw form of racism?

Jim

But are the muties really the same race as humans? Most seem to be of different species. So maybe, even though the same ignorant butthead drive is in play with "norms," it should be called xenophobia? In Skydark I played around with the idea that "some muties have feelings and aspirations, too." Not that it did them any good ...

I discussed racism in DL with one of the eidtors and she said, and I agree, that save for some weirdo sect or two mostly people are too busy surviving to care about race, creed or color. I played the race card in Hell Road Warriors, but as I envisioned it, up in the Great White North , save for mild ' they're different than me insults,' (Quebeckers being called Frogs, the Manitoulan Islanders being derisively called "Haweaters"), the real racism, (and it came back to bite them in the book), was how far your genetics had veered from 'norm.' The fact that Mildred and the sec man Six were dark skinned blacks was commented on but only because it was a relative rarity. So to quote someone a few posts back, in the DL milieu, I see being xenophobic as far more common than being racist. I like the hypothetical example of the companions stepping out of a redoubt and finding themselves in post apocalyptic Scotland, and finding you can literally set your chron to Clan MacSilentalbino descending from the Highlands and killing anything that wears pants. You know? That's not a bad idea for a book . . . ;P

Hahaha! They kill "sassenachs" with the ancient Scottish Martial Art of "F**k you".

I would love to see more 'out of Deathlands' storylines.

 

There is so much of the post-holocaust world to explore. 

Posted By Chuck on 13 Apr 2012 06:58 PM
I like the hypothetical example of the companions stepping out of a redoubt and finding themselves in post apocalyptic Scotland, and finding you can literally set your chron to Clan MacSilentalbino descending from the Highlands and killing anything that wears pants. You know? That's not a bad idea for a book . . . ;P

Oh and dont forget the clan McBaz, I have my family roots on the Isle of Skye, I'm a highlander -a real living breathing McLeod of McLeod...

Really.

 Jim

 

Posted By Chuck on 13 Apr 2012 06:58 PM
I like the hypothetical example of the companions stepping out of a redoubt and finding themselves in post apocalyptic Scotland, and finding you can literally set your chron to Clan MacSilentalbino descending from the Highlands and killing anything that wears pants. You know? That's not a bad idea for a book . . . ;P

And perhaps they could run into this chap,,,

 

 http://www.jamesaxler.com...665/Default.aspx#990 (second post in)

 

Jim

There can be only ONE!

Oh Baz, t'is a sad state of affair's but i've started a blood feud with one of your cousin's. Let the bloodshed begin.

Bluudfued no good!

Posted By silentalbino on 15 Apr 2012 11:02 PM
Oh Baz, t'is a sad state of affair's but i've started a blood feud with one of your cousin's. Let the bloodshed begin.

Tell me you are not a Campbell or a bloody MacDonald...

Jim

Neither, I was actually nearly fighting with a Mr Macleod the other day.

Posted By silentalbino on 18 Apr 2012 01:06 AM
Neither, I was actually nearly fighting with a Mr Macleod the other day.

Are you sure it was a MacLeod as we don't "nearly" fight...

Jim

 

PS

Sorry to keep hijacking the threads with our cross boarder banter folks.

Yes, i know him well as he used to be my boss and he has "Mcleod" tattooed on his arm.

Flapjacks seem to me to be less than spectacular muties I guess I never really understood how they attacked their prey. what was its predark ancestor?

The Drinker is another one that I don't get how did something like that evolve and what was its predark ancestor?

(looks over at AP and shrugs)

(looks over at Diablo, rolls eyes, and discreetly adjusts woolly sporran for comfort)

Did I say something wrong guys? I just was hoping for some info on those two muties .


In I think it was Savage Armada Mildred threatens to cut off I think it was Ryan's hand after he touches a dead poison dart frog, I thought those were only found in south America not in the south Pacific ?

I actually loved Savage Armada.

 

One of the last few that Polatta did well.

 

After that, he seem to've fallen off the writers menu.

I've also got to add that the "Flap-Jacks" were absolutely a horrible idea. I can't remember what book they were introduced but I remember laughing every time the author made Ryan say the name.

On the flip-side I actually liked the idea of the "demons" in Labyrinth I believe it was. A Flea/Scorpian/Bullfrog/Human that moved at terrifying speed with stingers and leg blades that vomited acid on peoples faces kinda creeped me out...

Flapjacks first appeared in the Baronies trilogy. Pollotta has used variants of those in several books since - feeders (creatures that look like cactus but have blood-draining tentacles), and something in Savage Armada that took down a whale with (you guessed it) blood-draining tentacles.

Posted By Kerrick on 06 Jun 2012 11:33 PM
Flapjacks first appeared in the Baronies trilogy. Pollotta has used variants of those in several books since - feeders (creatures that look like cactus but have blood-draining tentacles), and something in Savage Armada that took down a whale with (you guessed it) blood-draining tentacles.

 

 

I remember 'Drinkers" in I think it was Perdition Valley. Same Idea. They really should halt it with the 'new' muties and decide on just the norm. I remember strictly stickies,scalies and cannies. At least until the author's get a pow-wow and decide upon the norm...