Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
6/1/2013 8:45 AM |
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This is the official thread for comments on Deathlands #113- Motherlode
The bibliography page is located HERE
You can submit your own review HERE
Be warned, this thread may contain spoilers for the book.
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
6/19/2013 1:05 PM |
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Knock, knock. Anybody home?
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The PhantomBasic Member Posts:219
6/19/2013 3:37 PM |
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Anybody home who?
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
6/19/2013 9:27 PM |
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Guess it's just you and me. Did you bring a deck of cards?
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
6/20/2013 9:22 AM |
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RPGJunkie replied too, but for some reason I can't get his post to show up. Looks like something's broken.
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
6/20/2013 11:28 AM |
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Crap, lost my cards AND dice!
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APPublished Author Veteran Member Posts:346
6/20/2013 2:22 PM |
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Rock, paper, scissors?
Or we could see who can hold his breath the longest.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
6/20/2013 3:23 PM |
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This place is a ghost town i tell ya. A ghost town!
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Sin-EaterNew Member Posts:42
6/20/2013 7:37 PM |
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Just an observation but my work is way behind on Explorer and after the last upgrade here all I get is a blank screen. Possibly others are having the same issue? At home no problems.
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
6/21/2013 11:00 AM |
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I have had a couple people report this issue, I haven't been able to reproduce it. Can you tell me what version of IE you are using?
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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RPGjunkieNew Member Posts:35
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
10/1/2013 10:28 AM |
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Still no knowledge as to author of this next upcoming DL, Motherlode?
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The PhantomBasic Member Posts:219
10/1/2013 1:16 PM |
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I have it, but without reading it I don't know for sure who the writer is, but thumbing through it my best guess would be it is the work of Victor Milan. Who knows, it could be yet another new writer. I'm sure Ron will have the info soon.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
10/2/2013 10:59 AM |
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Yeah, I think it is Vic too. I read the excerpt on Amazon.com, and it does feel like Milan.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
10/5/2013 10:03 AM |
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Is it me, or is the cover for Motherlode kinda boring? I love Krysty cover art, but other than alamp post on her leg, what is interesting - or even threatening - on this cover? All I see is some old buildings...
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The PhantomBasic Member Posts:219
10/5/2013 1:43 PM |
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Maybe they are mutie buildings...
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
10/6/2013 10:23 AM |
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I spot the earth mover coming up from behind her, but it just misses that wow factor in cover design.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
10/23/2013 10:44 AM |
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Just got my copy of DL's Motherlode.
Unfortunately, I can't get into it for at least a week. Currently reading a solid Fantasy novel titled SEVEN FORGES. Cool cover and very good book so far...
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
10/23/2013 4:21 PM |
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Max, please could you post a review for Seven Forges when you have finished it. I have read the synopsis on amazon but don't know whether too buy it or not.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
10/23/2013 4:37 PM |
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Why do the DL Daisies have green center bits (cant remember what its called!!), they should be yellow? Jim
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
10/24/2013 10:39 AM |
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Silentalbino, go ahead and buy SEVEN FORGES. I have the last 100 pages to read, but it already was worth the price. Very good action fantasy which has the feelings of the grand tradition of Conan the Barbarian.
Insofar as the daisy is concerned: It is the symbol of Hope.
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The PhantomBasic Member Posts:219
10/24/2013 1:36 PM |
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My covers have yellow centers as far as I know. Maybe its the lighting. Or they are mutie daisies lol.
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
11/4/2013 4:15 PM |
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Where about is this one set??? Near Charlotte?
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
11/5/2013 10:51 AM |
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It is funny that you ask this question, since I just finished MOTHERLODE last night.
Well, as much as I love and respect Victor Milan's work, this latest DL is just OK. Nothing mind blowing, unfortunately. It is not a bad book, just not a memorable one.
And to answer your question, Silentalbino, the author never tells you what state this is in. It is just called Amity Springs. Usually the back cover synopsis tells the reader where the companions are, but this one never does. Very strange. But after reading it, and trying to discern where in the DL this place could be, the surrounding countryside he describes could be somewhere out west, perhaps around New Mexico way. California?
Motherlode is pretty much another somewhat typical baron vs baron book. What was strange to me was, there were threads here that kinda went no where, and those story threads could have led to a much better storyline.
I don't know how much you fans out there want me to reveal here, so I will hold back from giving a full review here until you guys say you wanna hear more.
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
11/5/2013 5:07 PM |
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That's a shame. Been on a DL reading binge the last wee while, really enjoying it. Liked the idea of two competing Lady Barons.
As usual I have too wait forever for my copy to turn up.
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
11/5/2013 5:21 PM |
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Does it start in the escape pod from the last one???
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
11/6/2013 1:52 AM |
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No it does not start in the escape pod. Wished it had.
You might like it better than I did. Like I typed, it is not a badly written book.
My humble opinion is: Vic has just written better ones.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
11/6/2013 1:57 AM |
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And the cover art for Motherlode has nothing to do with the story. That scene is not in the book.
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11/7/2013 12:28 AM |
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Posted By Maximus on 11/6/2013 1:57:23 AM
And the cover art for Motherlode has nothing to do with the story. That scene is not in the book.
Umm.. I don't think it really matters WHAT Krysty is doing on the cover.. Many of us will still buy it!
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
11/7/2013 7:26 AM |
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Posted By The Phantom on 10/24/2013 1:36:17 PM
My covers have yellow centers as far as I know. Maybe its the lighting. Or they are mutie daisies lol.
I should have been more specific, what I meant was why are they green on the cover of Motherlode?
Jim
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
11/7/2013 10:25 AM |
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I guess for the same reason that their centers are deep red in Dark Fathoms...
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
11/7/2013 1:43 PM |
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Yet another continuity error that goes unnoticed by the staff... Jim
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
11/14/2013 2:28 PM |
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Nobody else read this yet?
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
11/14/2013 3:24 PM |
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(This me with my hand raised up.)
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
11/14/2013 5:13 PM |
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Ha ha I know you've read it. Usually Grantbo is the first to put up a review.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
11/15/2013 1:42 AM |
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Grantbo? Who's that? Someone who rarely comes to the forum.
I sent in my review a while ago, along with others. But Ron hasn't posted 'em.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
11/15/2013 2:10 AM |
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Posted By Maximus on 11/15/2013 1:42:58 AM <p>Grantbo? Who's that? Someone who rarely comes to the forum.</p> <p> </p> <p>I sent in my review a while ago, along with others. But Ron hasn't posted 'em. <img alt="" src="http://www.jamesaxler.com/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/dark/emoticons/sad.gif" /> </p> I think Ron has other.things far more important on his mind at the moment. Why not copy your review into a post here? Jim
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
11/15/2013 5:04 AM |
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Yeah just wanted to know if any others of the gang had read it, us brits have too wait forever for our copies to get across the pond. I'm looking at the 29th of November for my copy to turn up.Rather annoying.
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Ron MilesWebsite Owner Commander In Chief Posts:864
11/15/2013 9:15 AM |
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Just approved a bunch of queued up reviews. Sorry I got behind.
"Sadly then I knew the answer. All her life she was a dancer, but no one ever played the song she knew." - The Residents
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twinsrule26Basic Member Posts:109
12/6/2013 1:47 AM |
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I liked this book, although I found the idea of open air villes without protective walls around them to be a bit odd in the DL. . I liked the idea of a fully trained Combat Librarian to be something that could have been expanded on a bit more. I liked Mikey-Bob the idea of a mutie caused by a birth defect instead of radiation is a novel idea. I wish that Sand's Sec boss was written better he seemed a bit two dimentional to me . The Bikers were silly if you asked me I felt they could have been much meaner and tougher than they were . Still as DL books go it was a good read. I liked that there was no Bio Weapons or strange new mutie beasty to deal with . The idea of a ville built on top of a dump was interesting I liked that they were scavenging and selling stuff from it .
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KerrickBasic Member Posts:322
12/10/2013 11:05 PM |
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I agree - a good read, one of the better ones that's come out lately. I was hoping we'd find out the relationship between Sand and DL, and what DL was hiding in her mouth (my guess was some kind of mutation). Honestly, the whole thing between Sand, DL, and the circus felt odd, like there was something more that either got cut or was never fully developed. Siamese twins aren't a mutation - it's just an egg that doesn't fully divide. There's actually a set of twin girls who look like Mikey-Bob (I read a story about them a couple years back); I wonder if Milan got the idea from them.
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twinsrule26Basic Member Posts:109
12/23/2013 2:15 AM |
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Posted By Kerrick on 12/10/2013 11:05:40 PM
I agree - a good read, one of the better ones that's come out lately. I was hoping we'd find out the relationship between Sand and DL, and what DL was hiding in her mouth (my guess was some kind of mutation). Honestly, the whole thing between Sand, DL, and the circus felt odd, like there was something more that either got cut or was never fully developed.
Siamese twins aren't a mutation - it's just an egg that doesn't fully divide. There's actually a set of twin girls who look like Mikey-Bob (I read a story about them a couple years back); I wonder if Milan got the idea from them.
I wonder if the DL was one of the Mutie women we see in Savage Armada the ones with forked tounges who eat poison dart frogs without bad side effects?
I also wonder if Sands and DL were sisters or ex lovers ?
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WoT Vet07New Member Posts:12
1/7/2014 6:53 PM |
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Wow, Ryan and his gang taken down in minutes by members of a Mutie / Freak show. His crew is supposed to be the # 1 badasses of Deathlands. You would have thought that Jak at least could have beaten both spider kids and what's with Ryan being disarmed so easily by the lizard man. The only thing I can figure is that the author decided that Ryan's group, after countless victories over would be ambushers, needed to be humiliated just to show that they aren't perfect. Thank goodness, shrewd JB saved the day by taking the Mutie show owner hostage and forced her minions to stand down! I liked the part about Trumbo using the bulldozer as a juggernaut to smash DL's ville, it sort of reminded me of an old 70's TV movie, Killdozer.
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
1/8/2014 4:26 PM |
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I got bored with this one about 120 pages in, it just didn't click with me or hold my atention like the last few have. Jim
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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Wordsmith-repriseFreelance Editor Basic Member Posts:150
1/8/2014 5:32 PM |
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You know, it's funny, Jim. These days I can't figure out what the readers will like. Sometimes I'm so far off base it's unreal. I thought everyone would not like Nemesis, but that's not the case. I thought readers would like Motherlode, but by and large they don't.
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twinsrule26Basic Member Posts:109
1/9/2014 2:10 AM |
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Posted By WoT Vet07 on 1/7/2014 6:53:53 PM
Wow, Ryan and his gang taken down in minutes by members of a Mutie / Freak show. His crew is supposed to be the # 1 badasses of Deathlands. You would have thought that Jak at least could have beaten both spider kids and what's with Ryan being disarmed so easily by the lizard man. The only thing I can figure is that the author decided that Ryan's group, after countless victories over would be ambushers, needed to be humiliated just to show that they aren't perfect. Thank goodness, shrewd JB saved the day by taking the Mutie show owner hostage and forced her minions to stand down! I liked the part about Trumbo using the bulldozer as a juggernaut to smash DL's ville, it sort of reminded me of an old 70's TV movie, Killdozer.
I think that the companions were hampered by the no kill request from the DL . The companions are some of the best killers out there ,but when it comes to non lethal combat ,they don't have too much experence in not killing their enemies . Most of the time they just kill anyone/thing that attacks them.
I do like that they got caught flat footed ,it showed that no matter how careful you are things can still go bad .
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)3az )3aziahBritish Bloke Veteran Member Posts:1060
1/9/2014 3:11 AM |
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Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 1/8/2014 5:32:09 PM You know, it's funny, Jim. These days I can't figure out what the readers will like. Sometimes I'm so far off base it's unreal. I thought everyone would not like Nemesis, but that's not the case. I thought readers would like Motherlode, but by and large they don't. I think the problem for me is that writers now trying to fit 700 plus pages of story into just over 300 and loosing there way after 200 pages then rushing to get it finished. They cut corners and forget about arcs they opened on page 35 or so. They keep writing the same story but with different character bad guys again and again and again ad nausium! Yes stick with formula that GE want but think out of the box. Stop making the characters do stupid things or get themselves caught out in situations that just scream TRAP that even the most unskilled people can see. Go back and see how LJ and Mark did it and learn that this is what made the series (both DL and OL) what they are and readers coming back for more. If a store only sold two types of pizza how long would it be before you got bored of it and went someplace else? Jim
=============================== Billy Fish: He wants to know if we are gods.
Peachy Carnehan: Not gods - Englishmen. The next best thing.
Please check out my FLICKR photos
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silentalbinoAdvanced Member Posts:742
1/9/2014 10:28 AM |
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I stopped reading 3/4 of the way through. It could have a been a cracking read but it just fell flat. Was bored through it.
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MaximusAdvanced Member Posts:518
1/9/2014 10:36 AM |
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I think the best writers that are 'thinking outside the box' and giving us fans untypical storylines - or just superior storylines - has been John Helfers and Chuck Rogers.
And Victor Milan at times. He's a hit or miss author.
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