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Diablo
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6/16/2012 1:32 AM
    getting checked around is part of it.I've been checked before and there's no doubt it will happen again.But that's part of it.The best thing about being here is that your post will get feed back and isn't that what we want,to be heard? 
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    6/16/2012 2:51 AM
    I suppose. I really don't feel there are any 'bad' authors here. I feel there are some who have been taxed out but I completely respect their work. There are books that absolutely suck balls. Palaces of light come to mind. But I feel the author has reached the end of his frame with the DL series and has nothing left as far it's concearned. He has (Mr. Boot) written some good books. For the same discussion I could critisize Mr. Pollata or even the favored AP, or Mr. Chuck for that matter. Example, for Mr. AP, WHat to hell happened to the 13 year old pregnant girl after Labyrinth? That bothered me especially after you almost whacked her with the 'trannie' trying to puke on her face before JB saved her.?

    Also Doom Helix, Did Ryan boink Ronbo's Girlfriend? Is that why Krysty and her stared at eachother at the end? Did he give her a little sumpin sumpin? And Dr. Huth, wtf? List that mother f***er getting his face ripped off and eaten, especially after 3 books dedicated to the cause. Not just 'Dragged away' . Was this made so a different author can somehow bring him back? With a mind control or something?

    And Mr. Chuck, Where to hell did the frozen pizzas and 100+year old bottles of beer come in? There is no way you would hold frozen pizzas for 100 years without them cooking like absolute ass. Same way with refridgerated beers for 100 years.




    The point is, I think it's great people are still writing these books. And I believe even if a member has a bad book I shouldn't complain.
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    6/16/2012 2:56 AM

    So...what I was saying is it's just dumbshit that should never really matter in a series that a person is following, and I am gratefull to the people who pen such a series that I have read for 21 years,

     

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    6/16/2012 12:46 PM

    SP,

    If you want different endings, you should write your own books.

    Offhand, there are three reasons for not completing every character's storyline (by "completing" I mean either killing them off in gruesome detail, marrying them off, showing every sex scene thrust by thrust, or adding them to the crew).  1) Because that's the way, uh-huh, I LIKE it, and this may be a shocker--I don't write books for you; 2) because when you are writing a series you never know who you might want or need to resurrect in a later book. I intended to resurrect Harmonica Tom, Ryan's Mexican double (can't remember his name, it's five in the morning here), and the stranded "Lord" from Empire of Xibalba in the book after DH, which was going to be set in Antarctica, but then decided I'd had enough of the whole effing mess and cancelled the contract. The 13-year-old girl was passed off to a safe place, as I recall. Why would Ryan boink Ti in the cave? That is just whack. 3) Not dotting every i and crossing every t is called leaving a little something to readers' imagination. Re: Dr. Huth,I went into laborious detail about what the specters did to lots of other characters. Not much imagination required there.

    If I bored the shit out of myself while writing I could never have finished anything. Maybe that would have been a blessing, but we can't turn back the hands of time.

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    6/16/2012 2:46 PM
    I believe the yong girl in labyrinth was supposed to be live happily ever after in the next book but due to a book swap that book was put back and another took its place.
    Read that somewhere on here.
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    6/16/2012 3:03 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 16 Jun 2012 02:46 PM
    I believe the yong girl in labyrinth was supposed to be live happily ever after in the next book but due to a book swap that book was put back and another took its place.
    Read that somewhere on here.
    I think that book swap post was about something else. Sunspot, maybe. I can't imagine wasting space writing about a girl living happily ever after. Talk about being bored shitless.

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    6/16/2012 3:27 PM
    Yeah, Sunspot and Apocalypse Unborn are the ones that got their order swapped. So then as released you had the companions recognize a particular type of nasty bug in Sunspot, and then later on in Apocalypse Unborn they encounter the same bug "for the first time" and don't know anything about it. Sucks to be a writer. You try to throw in some actual continuity, and then get screwed over for it and the readers think you are a moron.
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    6/16/2012 3:28 PM

    AP: I never would presume that one of your novels were in fact written for ME. As far as I was concearned the thread OP posted a critique thread and I was pointing out some anal hair conclusions that I personally wanted resolved.

     

    Dr. Huth got dragged away by stickies, the specteres were gone at that point, they were not the cause of his demise. He was still wearing his battlesuit though.

     

    Ryan has boinked other woman before under more dire conditions, it would of been nothing new.

    The teenage girl made the jump with the companions, next book she was gone. I never cared if she lived happily ever after, just wanted to know where they had jumped to and dropped her off, hell you could have killed her off for all I care.

    And I was glad Chucho made it at the end, Does that mean another author can bring him back? How does that work?

    As I stated, this seems to be a critique thread so as far as I am concearned these are just some small questions I had about a few books. I have allready stated that I like your work.

     

     

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    6/16/2012 3:37 PM
    Posted By AP on 16 Jun 2012 03:03 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 16 Jun 2012 02:46 PM
    I believe the yong girl in labyrinth was supposed to be live happily ever after in the next book but due to a book swap that book was put back and another took its place.
    Read that somewhere on here.
    I think that book swap post was about something else. Sunspot, maybe. I can't imagine wasting space writing about a girl living happily ever after. Talk about being bored shitless.



    Woops, wrong again.
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    6/16/2012 3:44 PM
    Posted By SP on 16 Jun 2012 03:28 PM

    AP: I never would presume that one of your novels were in fact written for ME. As far as I was concearned the thread OP posted a critique thread and I was pointing out some anal hair conclusions that I personally wanted resolved.

     

    Dr. Huth got dragged away by stickies, the specteres were gone at that point, they were not the cause of his demise. He was still wearing his battlesuit though.

     

    Ryan has boinked other woman before under more dire conditions, it would of been nothing new.

    The teenage girl made the jump with the companions, next book she was gone.

     

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    You obviously remember the books better than I do. But ... the battlesuit has to run out of power at some point, Huth has to eat at some point; he can't stay in there forever, and he can't get out of the cave. And whether it's stickies or specters it doesn't change the fact that I have described ad nauseum how the muties in question kill people. In my books has Ryan ever willingly boinked anyone but Krysty?  I don't remember.

    Re: teenage girl.  I didn't write "the next book." The only time I've written consecutive books was Empire of Xibalba. What would the point have been for me to show the girl stepping out the mat-trans FOUR BOOKS LATER?  This is a stable-written series with no communication between authors, no oversight of series story arcs. How many times does this have to be explained before it sinks in?

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    6/16/2012 3:48 PM
    AP, what in your universe happened to her then. I think they ate her.
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    6/16/2012 3:50 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 16 Jun 2012 03:48 PM
    AP, what in your universe happened to her then. I think they ate her.

    Correct. But not before they all boinked her.
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    6/16/2012 3:54 PM
    Ha ha, no eiffel towers i hope.
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    6/16/2012 4:06 PM
    Posted By AP on 16 Jun 2012 03:44 PM

    Re: teenage girl.  I didn't write "the next book." The only time I've written consecutive books was Empire of Xibalba. What would the point have been for me to show the girl stepping out the mat-trans FOUR BOOKS LATER?  This is a stable-written series with no communication between authors, no oversight of series story arcs. How many times does this have to be explained before it sinks in?

     

    Just this once I imagine. As before I joined these forums, I never knew the authors didn't read or become familiar with the previous novel. Or have communication with eachother over where the progression of the story line is.

     

    And this was the first time hearing it, so thanks for the explanation.

     

    So what about Chucko? Could someone bring him back with your consent? Or how does that work?

     

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    6/16/2012 4:18 PM
    You mean "Chucho"? Now I remember the name. I don't know what the process would be. As I understand my agreement with Harlequin, they only own the series main characters. All the characters I created are mine. Hard to imagine one of the other writers wanting to bring back one of my characters, or GE allowing them to, though.
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    6/16/2012 4:33 PM

    Posted By AP on 16 Jun 2012 04:18 PM
    You mean "Chucho"? Now I remember the name. I don't know what the process would be. As I understand my agreement with Harlequin, they only own the series main characters. All the characters I created are mine. Hard to imagine one of the other writers wanting to bring back one of my characters, or GE allowing them to, though.

     

     

    In my mind it would make the current authors job easier provided they at least read Dark Ressurection to familiarize themself with the character. Especially if it was something the fans wanted and the character's creator didn't have a problem with it. It shouldn't be any skin off GE's ass. Of course I don't understand what contracts and stipulations the authors have for the company. Oh well.

     

     


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    6/16/2012 4:41 PM
    Posted By AP on 16 Jun 2012 03:44 PM

    You obviously remember the books better than I do.

     

     Not at all. I have simply read or re-read from previously owning most of my e-bay/amazon shipment's as they have been coming in. And after learning that you wrote the Shadow world trilogy I read all of your work first.So I have read about 30 books in as many day's and most are still fresh in my mind. As I would not ask a question of an author without being very familiar of his work.

    'Tis better if I look like an ass, then a dumbass.

     

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    6/22/2012 3:21 AM
    SP,why you think AP is the favored author is crazy.It was just a yr ago I questioned AP about Doom Helix as you r doin now.And now I'm his unofficial agent....But like Ron said,its got be a bitch to write DL's books for all the hundreds and hundreds of fans.(joke)
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    6/22/2012 3:46 PM

    I kinda disagree, Diablo.

     

    If any author is 'burned out' - then he knows it.

     

    So stop writing them. Simple as that. Take a break. Write something else. Take a sabbatical.

     

    All one has to do is to write what you love, and kinda see what the overall fans like in their stories. Think outside the box, instead of rehashing the same 'ol 'Bad baron in ville who loves to tweak the titties of youngsters' theme.

     

    There is yet TONS of wealth storyline to choose from in this series, despite it being the longest running post holocaust series. Just chron jumps alone could give any writer countless stories....

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    6/22/2012 4:25 PM
    Posted By Maximus on 22 Jun 2012 03:46 PM

    I kinda disagree, Diablo.

     

    If any author is 'burned out' - then he knows it.

     

    So stop writing them. Simple as that. Take a break. Write something else. Take a sabbatical.

     

    All one has to do is to write what you love, and kinda see what the overall fans like in their stories. Think outside the box, instead of rehashing the same 'ol 'Bad baron in ville who loves to tweak the titties of youngsters' theme.

     

    Easy for you to say, Maximus.

    Writers in the GE stable work hand to mouth. In order to make a poverty level wage at current pay rates a GE writer would have to churn out a minimum of three to four books a year. What would you have them do during the "sabbatical"? Go on Welfare? Clean windshields at busy intersections? How are writers supposed ta, kinda see what overall fans like in their stories? I'm counting maybe a dozen posters on this site. So do you mean "overall," as in seven fans? Or would that be eight?

    Writers are supposed to only write what they love. (I read that somewhere. Or was told it, I forget.) If GE writers love to write about December-May titty tweaking, if that is the engine that drives them get up in the morning and pound the keys, who are you denigrate their choice of theme? That's like calling Van Gogh's squiggly trees a "rehash." 

    And shouldn't all DL readers get down on their knees and be thankful that the recurring theme isn't December-May Eiffel Towers?

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