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Ryan_Cawdor
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4/24/2008 2:23 PM

    My dad thought of a good way to end the Deathlands series when they do stop it.  Is to find a time trawler in a redoubt and have mille find out how to work it and send doc tanner back to his time just as he is geting sucked ahead to stop the ripping apart of his daughters.  but doc from the past will still get trawled forward so he is still going to the deathlands era.  So yeah what do you guys think?

     

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    4/24/2008 2:52 PM

    How about....

    EPILOGUE

    Doc opened his eyes, the mat trans was somehow different yet familiar at the same time, the usual cold metallic floor was soft and warm. Sitting up he spoke the name of his long time companion, "Ryan, by the three Kennedy's where have we jumped to now?"

    In the background he hears a voice familiar yet somehow gone for so long calling, "Nurse, Nurse Theo is awake".

    "What kind of jump dream is this, Emily my beloved Emily why am I tortured so?”

    "Theo my love, you are awake? We thought you would never wake from the Coma it has been a long nine months since the accident."

    Looking around at the familiar hospital ward Doc realized it had all been a bad dream. "Oh, what tales of fancy my dreams would make," he thought, "If only I could remember them...”

     

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    Ryan_Cawdor
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    4/24/2008 3:14 PM

    But all the books would be his dreams. 

    And in one Outlanders books he see's Kane,Brigid & Grant. 

    Cause the white coats did a jump on him or he got sent in the future when he jumped and popped up his cane sword. 

    Cause kane and them freaked out because of the unotherised jump that was coming in.

    but yours and my dads ideas would work.  He wants to get a star trek book and read it the ones the fans write and see if he can write a short story for it and send it in. 

    I have been thinking of stuff for deathlands but eh im no good at writing. 

     

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    4/24/2008 4:44 PM

    [QUOTE]Ryan_Cawdor wrote

    But all the books would be his dreams. 


     

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    Exactly, was it all a dream or is the end just another jump created nightmare...

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    Skaramine
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    4/25/2008 12:05 AM

    Rescuing Doc's family WOULD be a good plotline.

    Granted, it would splinter off an alternate universe, but then in two worlds, Doctor Tanner would be a happy man.

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    7/12/2008 3:41 PM

    Is this some twisted spin on perhaps the worst T.V. series ending of all time?!  Does anyone remember the T.V. show Dallas?  Generally, I don't think most people would be pleased to find, after reading hundreds of books (Deathlands and spin-off series), that... oops... it all meant nothing.  "I knew I shouldn't have had that third helping of Pot Roast... what a strange dream!"

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    7/12/2008 10:01 PM

    Outlanders would exist regardless of Deathlands.

     

    See, there's a solid mythology for Outlanders and an actual progression of plot, rather than the same recurring dream over and over again.

     

    Doc Tanner wakes up and asks his wife for a Brandy, that's a good thing.  It means he woke up in the universe where Kane didn't act like a mental erectile dysfunction (Cawdor) and prevented the megacull of humanity.  The next jump always promises to be a good one, and if it's waking up in a casement where a hero, not a one-eyed sociopath, had a choice about the destiny of the multiverse, then hey, waking up with a rumbly tummy after a nightmare is a fine end for the series.

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    8/31/2008 3:28 AM

    I have read and own every one of the books and have noticed that the last few have made references to a certain redoubt with a certain symbol (the Saturn car logo) signifying something of importance. Maybe this is the master redoubt where Doc was pushed forward in time or perhaps a mat-trans unit that is actually a time trawling machine. In any case, a good ending would be for them to find this machine and for all of them, Dean included, to return to Doc's time. Doc could arrive in time to save his children, but not himself as he is trawled into the future. So the story line stays in tact. They have always been seeking a place where they could live in peace and stop living from battle to battle. Written properly, it would not effect the time line, the story line or the transition to Outlanders.

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    8/31/2008 2:58 PM

    Have you read the Outlanders series ?

    I'm guessing not as a lot of what you quote above has been covered in that series. I would suggest quite strongly that you do read the series (well up to Ghostwalk and with the exception of those few books by Victor Millan -which are crap) they are light years ahead in quality over DL and that from a long time DL fan too.

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    8/31/2008 3:01 PM

    [QUOTE]Dave528 wrote

    I have read and own every one of the books and have noticed that the last few have made references to a certain redoubt with a certain symbol (the Saturn car logo) signifying something of importance. Maybe this is the master redoubt where Doc was pushed forward in time or perhaps a mat-trans unit that is actually a time trawling machine. In any case, a good ending would be for them to find this machine and for all of them, Dean included, to return to Doc's time. Doc could arrive in time to save his children, but not himself as he is trawled into the future. So the story line stays in tact. They have always been seeking a place where they could live in peace and stop living from battle to battle. Written properly, it would not effect the time line, the story line or the transition to Outlanders.

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    Have you read the Outlanders series ?

    I'm guessing not as a lot of what you quote above has been covered in that series. I would suggest quite strongly that you do read the series (well up to Ghostwalk and with the exception of those few books by Victor Millan -which are crap) they are light years ahead in quality over DL and that from a long time DL fan too.

    Jim

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    Ryan_Cawdor
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    9/11/2008 10:03 AM

    Wow i started a post that almost everyone started saying stuff on.  I don't know they should end the DL series but it's hard to keep it going also.

     

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    9/11/2008 2:19 PM

    [QUOTE]Skaramine wrote

    Outlanders would exist regardless of Deathlands.

     

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    How about instead Mack Bolan, Able team and Phonenix Force go forward in time and blow away all of Outlanders and Deathlands saving us from a second 9/11in this time. Yeah, that the ticket.

     

    Cerberus Man
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    9/11/2008 2:44 PM

    Actually, it's not, since Outlanders and DL take place in an alternate time-line, different from the one inhabited by Bolan and his pals.

    "It's better to have a blaster and not need it than to need it and--" "Oh, spare me," Brigid said irritably. (Kane and Brigid Baptiste from Armageddon Axis)
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    9/15/2008 10:05 AM

    The 4th OL book Omega Path by Mark Ellis explained the whole alternate time-line set-up for what he called the "Axlerverse."

    If you haven't read it, you should--it's a classic!

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    9/15/2008 6:31 PM

    It's a shame that Gold Eagle doesn't have enough where-with-all to actually coordinate a Stony Man/Deathlands crossover.

    The premise would be simple---on "Earth-Stony Man" a transmat system is developed and subsequently stolen...Stony Man intervenes and is cast off to what to them would be an alternate reality---The Deathlands.

    Mayhem ensues.

    Several years ago author David Robbins wrote a crossover of sorts between his western series Wilderness and his Endworld/Blade series,  If that could be pulled off SM/DL should be a snap in comparison.

    Are you listening Gold Eagle? 

    You know, maybe it's time I wrote a fanfiction myself, LOL!

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    9/15/2008 7:47 PM

    GE already let a Outlanders/Guardians crossover of sorts through, so Stony Man in the Axlerverse would be a viable idea.

    Can't say I would be interested beyond a fanfic of this idea though.

     

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    9/16/2008 12:22 AM

    [QUOTE]mikeclr wrote

    You know, maybe it's time a wrote a fanfiction myself, LOL!

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    Why not? Other people are being paid by GE to do it.

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    9/16/2008 8:58 AM

    [QUOTE]The Phantom wrote

    Can't say I would be interested beyond a fanfic of this idea though.

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    So you feel this wouldn't be a concept worth exploring in an actual Deathlands novel? 

    Why and how so?

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    9/16/2008 1:31 PM

    [QUOTE]Ryan_Cawdor wrote

    My dad thought of a good way to end the Deathlands series when they do stop it.  Is to find a time trawler in a redoubt and have mille find out how to work it and send doc tanner back to his time just as he is geting sucked ahead to stop the ripping apart of his daughters.  but doc from the past will still get trawled forward so he is still going to the deathlands era.  So yeah what do you guys think?

     

    Ryan_Cawdor

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    I have a problem with that in Thunder Road Doc went back and found he couldn't go back to his orginal timeline and told Ryan that he belong in the 23rd century now instead of 19th. So unless that can be fixed and Project Coldfire defeated Doc is staying put.

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    9/16/2008 2:41 PM

    [QUOTE]Millennial Man wrote

     

    I have a problem with that in Thunder Road Doc went back and found he couldn't go back to his orginal timeline and told Ryan that he belong in the 23rd century now instead of 19th. So unless that can be fixed and Project Coldfire defeated Doc is staying put.

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    So other words, the writer of Thunder Road just repeated the same thing that was already established in Omega Path, back in 1998?

    Wow, how original.

     

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