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mikeclr
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7/28/2010 4:28 PM
Any idea who wrote that first book in the SOBs?

They really changed the cover from the first volume to the second IIRC...the first was kind of a bland black and white wasn't it?
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7/28/2010 5:35 PM
Posted By mikeclr on 28 Jul 2010 04:28 PM
Any idea who wrote that first book in the SOBs?

They really changed the cover from the first volume to the second IIRC...the first was kind of a bland black and white wasn't it?

My list shows Jack Canon, Robin Hardy and Alan Bomack.
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7/28/2010 8:07 PM
Posted By Sin-Eater on 28 Jul 2010 05:35 PM
Posted By mikeclr on 28 Jul 2010 04:28 PM
Any idea who wrote that first book in the SOBs?

They really changed the cover from the first volume to the second IIRC...the first was kind of a bland black and white wasn't it?

My list shows Jack Canon, Robin Hardy and Alan Bomack.

Don't know anything about the other guys ("Alan Bomack" has the ring of a pseudonym), but I heard that Robin Hardy died in a freak hiking accident, must've been at least 15 years ago. Perhaps part of the first SOB book's problem was that it had three authors?
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7/28/2010 8:15 PM
Pseudonym be that as it may, the name Alan Bomack also wrote several Executioners as well.
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7/30/2010 4:20 PM
Posted By mikeclr on 28 Jul 2010 04:28 PM

They really changed the cover from the first volume to the second IIRC...the first was kind of a bland black and white wasn't it?

Yes, it is a rather poor choice of a cover to launch a series with, and may have been another reason the first book did not sell  as well.
There is a reprinted edition of that book with the style of cover used beginning with book #13. I have the original black and white version.

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7/30/2010 4:23 PM
Posted By AP on 28 Jul 2010 08:07 PM


Don't know anything about the other guys ("Alan Bomack" has the ring of a pseudonym), but I heard that Robin Hardy died in a freak hiking accident, must've been at least 15 years ago. Perhaps part of the first SOB book's problem was that it had three authors?
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According to Stephen Mertz, Alan Bomack's real name is David Wade. I remember seeing a photo of him somewhere even, but I forget where.
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7/30/2010 8:03 PM
Posted By The Phantom on 30 Jul 2010 04:23 PM

According to Stephen Mertz, Alan Bomack's real name is David Wade. I remember seeing a photo of him somewhere even, but I forget where.

That's what my last remaining GE source tells me, too.
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9/2/2010 9:20 PM
AP you should come and fish with us in NE Florida.Maybe after you land a Black Drum over a 100 pounds you could  write your own "Old Man and the Sea"...
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9/4/2010 6:56 PM
Well, everyone, this is an extremely sad month for me, as it sees the publication of the last Deathlands book written by the absolutely fabulous Alan Phillipson. I cannot began to tell you what a pleasure it was to be his line editor, what a joy it was to edit one of his manuscripts. Al, I miss you already. I salute you!

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9/5/2010 10:07 AM
Posted By Diablo on 02 Sep 2010 09:20 PM
AP you should come and fish with us in NE Florida.Maybe after you land a Black Drum over a 100 pounds you could  write your own "Old Man and the Sea"...
Sounds like a plan. Only I'll fight the fish--you can write the book.  Never been to NE FL, only the Keys and around Sebastian Inlet. Where are you fishing for the drum?

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9/5/2010 10:14 AM
Posted By Wordsmith-reprise on 04 Sep 2010 06:56 PM
Well, everyone, this is an extremely sad month for me, as it sees the publication of the last Deathlands book written by the absolutely fabulous Alan Phillipson. I cannot began to tell you what a pleasure it was to be his line editor, what a joy it was to edit one of his manuscripts. Al, I miss you already. I salute you!

Cathy
Dear Ti,
Miss you, too. The GE work, not so much. 

We'll always have Paris.
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Diablo
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9/10/2010 12:52 AM
Bro we fish for drum startin in Feb and bye March they have moved north.Its not like we have to go off shore,we catch them in backrivers.Its crazy to hear them "grunt" in the evening.It shakes the boat.I'm on the Fla/Ga line,Fernandina Beach is where we fish.email me at johnsonrsj@bellsouth.net and I'll send ya some fish pics.
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9/23/2010 9:50 PM
This book was absolutely outstanding.  I couldn't find even one mistake to nit-pic.  The depth of story, various subplots combined with a believable ending made this book one of the best in the series.
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9/24/2010 12:03 PM
Posted By Grantbo on 23 Sep 2010 09:50 PM
This book was absolutely outstanding.  I couldn't find even one mistake to nit-pic.  The depth of story, various subplots combined with a believable ending made this book one of the best in the series.
Grantbo,
Thanks. I was hoping to go out on a high note.
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9/24/2010 12:11 PM
I wonder if Grantbo is any relation to Ronbo? Maybe they have matching tattoos....
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9/24/2010 2:21 PM
i'm really sorry, but i haven't been here in a while--can anyone please tell me why alan isn't writing any more deathlands? he is my no.1 deathlands favorite (i like mark for outlanders). i enjoy his books so much that i save them for my vacations--my all time fave APOCALYPSE UNBORN  i read in japan and last years PLAGUE LORDS and DARK RESURRECTION  i read in the mediterranean and i will always associate those trips with his terrific writing.when i first read DAMNATION ROADSHOW i was buying it over and over to give copies to my friends. NOONE (including james) ever gave the magus the kind of character developement AP could and i have been slogging through awful andy boot just waiting for when AP would finally give us magus' ultimate demise at the companions hands---and now i want to cry. when close friends of mine pass away i mourn for the future not spent with them, and now i have similar feelings.
    i also want to say how much it meant to have such a great ending to last years dualogy with doc dancing a jig and ryan and his double enjoying their sea voyage with their new friend and skipper. the new guy hoskin blew it for me when he chopped that little girls neck off in such a dehumanizing way---but knowing that i had another AP novel to look forward to kept me going. is gold eagle that blind or is it once again one of life's constants: money makes the world go round?
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9/24/2010 4:06 PM
Posted By chekrdemon on 24 Sep 2010 02:21 PM
i'm really sorry, but i haven't been here in a while--can anyone please tell me why alan isn't writing any more deathlands? he is my no.1 deathlands favorite (i like mark for outlanders). i enjoy his books so much that i save them for my vacations--my all time fave APOCALYPSE UNBORN  i read in japan and last years PLAGUE LORDS and DARK RESURRECTION  i read in the mediterranean and i will always associate those trips with his terrific writing.when i first read DAMNATION ROADSHOW i was buying it over and over to give copies to my friends. NOONE (including james) ever gave the magus the kind of character developement AP could and i have been slogging through awful andy boot just waiting for when AP would finally give us magus' ultimate demise at the companions hands---and now i want to cry. when close friends of mine pass away i mourn for the future not spent with them, and now i have similar feelings.
    i also want to say how much it meant to have such a great ending to last years dualogy with doc dancing a jig and ryan and his double enjoying their sea voyage with their new friend and skipper. the new guy hoskin blew it for me when he chopped that little girls neck off in such a dehumanizing way---but knowing that i had another AP novel to look forward to kept me going. is gold eagle that blind or is it once again one of life's constants: money makes the world go round?
Chekrdemon,
Very gratifying to hear that you liked my DLs so much. As to my departure from GE, yes, it was a matter of money and the lack of royalty income from the body of work I had produced for them. The fact that I could make twice as much editing and doctoring other people's books (much easier work, too) made me lose interest in GE as an employer. I was also burned out on DL after writing so many books in the series, which made it increasingly difficult for me to maintain momentum and the quality of the material.

I've started several original novels (you can read the first few chapters of one of them for free if you click the Slaughter Realms link on the left side of the ja.com homepage), but haven't finished anything, yet. I am scaling back on the editing work starting this month so I can get the original fiction done in an orderly fashion.

Again, thanks for your kind words.
AP
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9/24/2010 6:12 PM

 thanks so much for replying to my post and of course i don't blame you --i blame the cheapskates at gold eagle for not recognizing  and keeping such talent by paying you   what you are worth (which to me would mean giving you a raise and the royalties you deserve!) but obviously to them the bottom line is when people will buy DEATHLANDS no matter what (and i am afraid i am in that catagory) they will get the same amount of money whether it is well written or not. oowww.
    Alan, i will buy and read anything you write and i have and will check out your links. and keep a small hope that one day the people at gold eagle will realize that you are worth more money and make you an offer you can't refuse to re-enter the axlerverse. i  have DOOM HELIX and am rereading SHADOW WORLD and BREAKTHROUGH.
thank you on behalf of myself and an awful lot of people (like me) who don't post on message boards often, if ever, for many years of fantastic fiction and i will look forward to your new books where you get to keep the royalties!
ps i work at the library of congress so when i say books are my life, i'm not joking around
pss i loved that after all the mayhem in APOCALYPSE UNBORN the survivors  sat down and had a big party together! GO DOGS GO!  (seuss reference)

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9/25/2010 4:38 AM
just finished reading this.
Have to admit,this is the first shadow world novel i have really enjoyed.I think this is certainly the best of the shadow world books and was a very easy read indeed plus its a suitable finish to something i never really enjoyed but did stick with.well done ap
The other british one
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10/1/2010 2:46 AM
Hey, Mr. Philipson. Good job on writing your version of the Deathlands.  I am trying to become a writer of fiction stories and I do have about thirty-four story ideas started, but I still feel lost and I do not know where to start.  Do you have any suggestions?  Thanks.
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