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Deathlands 98 - Tainted Cascade
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1/1/2011 3:31 PM

    This is the official thread for comments on Deathlands #98 - Tainted Cascade

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    Be warned, this thread may contain spoilers for the book.

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    2/6/2011 8:07 AM
    Just added the cover for Tainted Cascade, and it's just wrong on so many levels. I guess the artist figured, "Well, I aughta put a taint on this cover since it's in the title and all..."
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    2/6/2011 4:36 PM
    Is that supposed to be the US in the smoke with the Soviet Union pouring lightning into it ?

    I can see three levels of "wrong" here, how many do you?
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    2/20/2011 12:05 PM

    Oh look, they're on another tropical island. How much do you want to bet there will be one or more of the following:

    Pirates

    An (overweight) evil overlord

    A sec chief who is killed by said overlord

    A gigantic mutie shark of some kind.

    (This is excepting, of course, the normal Pollotta tropes: a Veri gun, bioweapons, an H&H Nitro Express rifle, and several things that are physically impossible in the real world.)

    BTW, I don't see what's so bad with the cover, besides the fact that Ryan's in jeans and a T-shirt...

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    5/18/2011 3:42 PM
    SPOILERS FOLKS SPOILERS FOLKS SPOILERS FOLKS SPOILERS FOLKS

    OK, started this on the way to the office this morning and found several things to grumble about in the first thirty or so pages.









    J.B states he has never seen stingwings hunting in packs before. Ermm, what about the last book -a building full of them...

    Ryan gets into the pool with water just up to the top of his boots, some 6 or 7 inches tops. Then he tells the rest of the group to get under the water. Hmmm 6" of water wouldn't cover half of my 6'2" frame so...

    No sign yet of Pirates, tropical island, fat overlord or mutie shark but there are still about 280 pages left

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    5/19/2011 10:58 AM
    SPOILERS FOLKS SPOILERS FOLKS SPOILERS FOLKS SPOILERS FOLKS OK, started this on the way to the office this morning and found several things to grumble about in the first thirty or so pages.
    It took you that long? Pollotta must be slipping.

    For the first point: Not a big deal, IMO - you know the writers don't get to read the previous book...

    For the second: I wish there were a "head-shake" emoticon...

    For the third: Looks like the cover artist and the author aren't communicating. Or the artist read Pollotta's previous book set in Utah, where it was a lush jungle, and went with that... and then Pollotta decided to make it into a desert. Which would be fine (most of Utah IS desert, after all)... except that he's ignoring the fact that the Great Salt Lake, according to Pilgrimage to Hell, covers 15,000 square miles.

    I can't believe you put yourself through this torture. You must be a masochist.
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    5/24/2011 12:44 AM
    Here's another winner of a story.  Good flow, interesting subplots, neeto bad guys/icky things.

    I liked the story, you will too.


    Time for a rant:

    With all the various firearms they collected in this story why wouldn't they keep some of them? Or change out or add too their collections?  I think this is a weakness of the series. 

    I was hoping that the young kid caught up with the group at the end and joined up.  Adding new characters, or even losing somebody would certianly spice things up a bit.
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    7/2/2011 10:25 AM
    Posted By Grantbo on 24 May 2011 12:44 AM
    With all the various firearms they collected in this story why wouldn't they keep some of them? Or change out or add too their collections?  I think this is a weakness of the series. 

    I was hoping that the young kid caught up with the group at the end and joined up.  Adding new characters, or even losing somebody would certianly spice things up a bit.

    Thats the problem with having a number of writers working on the series, each book has to end as it started with the main characters fit, well and with all clothes and weapons back in place ready to go with the next book.

    The writers are contracted to write several books but they do not know in what order they will be published hence they cannot make changes that will effect the next book to come along. Even those few duologies and trilogies end with the group happy, smiling and with there trusted weapons in hand once more.

    Jim

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    8/25/2011 5:30 AM

    Theres how many authors who write for this series? 4 or 5? Surely these guys could   e-mail each other and say "hey guys im thinking off adding a new character for a few books what do you think"
    There needs to be a little ebb and flow to the series.
    Ryan maybe gets a new rifle. Jak or Doc get a hook up where there new spouse doesnt get there head blown off at the end of the book. Krysty gets a storyline.
    Rant over. 

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    8/25/2011 6:39 AM
    This really isn't the authors' fault. When someone is contracted to submit a book (or books) in the series, they have no idea in what order they will be published in or who else is writing other books in the meantime. Alan Philipson had a case where he specifically tried to build some continuity by introducing a particular kind of mutant bug in one book in which the companions specifically talk about how they have never seen one before, and then bringing it up again in a second book and having them react to it with experience. Long after both manuscripts were submitted, Gold Eagle decided to swap the release order of the two books because one of them was primarily a Doc story and there was a book from another author that was also a Doc story and they didn't want them to appear back-to-back. If the series had a story editor that would help tremendously, but unfortunately the editor is only a line editor who is responsible for checking for spelling errors, etc. Profits in the publishing industry are razor thin (or nonexistent), and adding the expense of a story editor would render the series completely unprofitable.
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    8/28/2011 4:57 PM

    Alas Ron, i did not know this. Seem's a crazy way off doing thing's but as always the old adage applies "we're here to make money not friend's".
    On another matter, do GE ever release Book Sales figure's for DL novel's.

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