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7/9/2012 9:39 PM
    Does what it say's on the tin.
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    7/10/2012 12:50 PM
    Is that it?

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    7/10/2012 10:40 PM
    Just wanted it there for when I do have a question. Only on Book 2. Brilliant tho.
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    7/11/2012 11:08 AM
    how about...

    "Why didn't i start reading these years ago?"


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    7/11/2012 1:05 PM
    Did'nt want to "betray" DL to it's upstart younger sibling. What a fool I was.
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    7/11/2012 2:48 PM
    And the amazing thing is, the books just keep getting better and better.
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    7/11/2012 4:24 PM

    Except for the last couple of years...

     

    Shame too, because I miss a fun and exciting Outlanders story. I've tried the last 3 or 4, and just could not connect with them. I really, really tried. 

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    7/11/2012 4:48 PM
    When does the quality of Outlanders start to "tail off".
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    7/11/2012 6:02 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 11 Jul 2012 04:48 PM
    When does the quality of Outlanders start to "tail off".

    Well that can be seen in reviews and in older posts on this site regarding the OL series. I have not read any OL book that Mark Ellis did not write or was involved in with the exception of Sargasso Plunder. But from everything I have noticed over the years, it was the fill-in books by Victor Milan that was a sore spot for many readers originally, mainly because of his doing his own thing without working with Mark to make the books more in continuity and more accurate in terms of characterization and such rather than his talent as a writer. Even some disagree on his writing talent as well, but personally I think Milan is a good writer, as I have very much enjoyed his Rogue Angel stories.

    As for the books written by Doug and Rick, I can only say that it seems like the series has been handed by GE over to writers that are not going in the direction Mark was going to take it, and it really is more of a fan fiction series now, as is the case with all the other GE series out there when you think about it.

    The books not written by the series creator nor any involvement thereof are just not going to be the same as the whole overall quality and continuity and story arcs and character development. Individual books may be good, some really good, or maybe not so good, but It just isn't and probably never will be like it was, so I would say as far as the series having a "tail off", I would just conclude that any book not written or at the very least have some kind of cooperation or input from the original writer and creator would be classified as a tail off book.

    So basicly OL is like DL now, with it being like Forest Gump said, it's like a box of chocolates, you don't know what you're gonna get.


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    7/11/2012 6:06 PM
    Well i've got a whole load of Mark's books to get through then.
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    7/11/2012 6:12 PM
    Posted By The Phantom on 11 Jul 2012 06:02 PM

    So basicly OL is like DL now, with it being like Forest Gump said, it's like a box of chocolates, you don't know what you're gonna get.

    That's really not the case. Where DL remains a series written by a rotating group of authors with no particular over-arching storyline, OL is currently a series written by one primary author plus one secondary author, both of whom work very closely together. There has been heavy book-to-book continuity with a coherent over-arching storyline, and the quality of each book has been pretty consistent. Certainly the style has changed since Mark left the series, and you may not enjoy that style (either on its own merits, or simply because it is not Mark doing the writing), but it is factually untrue to say you don't know what you're gonna get.

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    7/11/2012 6:16 PM
    Is it book three that they go to New London/Liverpool.
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    7/11/2012 6:49 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 11 Jul 2012 06:16 PM
    Is it book three that they go to New London/Liverpool.

    In book three they go to Ireland and I think they do visit England (its been a while since I read the early OL books though).

     They do visit New London (aka Liverpool ) in Hell Rising though.

     

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    7/11/2012 7:51 PM

    Yeah, even though I could not finish these latest few Outlander books, I can see that these two writers are trying to work together. And the concept and idea they are injecting in them sounds like a sound one.

     

    But, for the life of me, they just don't get me to the last page... 

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    7/11/2012 8:26 PM
    Damn, was looking forward to them foraging around Anfield.
    Maybe going to Toxteth. Actually just had a thought would be great for Doc from Dl to visit Toxteth.
    "My dear friend's, I was here in the 1990's and it's not changed one iota"
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    7/12/2012 9:54 AM
    I live in Anfield!!!

    but I'm a blue...

    Most of the action in Hell rising takes place around what was the albert dock area.

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    7/12/2012 7:26 PM
    Actually, the Cerberus crew first visit Liverpool/New London in the third book, Savage Sun. There are direct links to Mel Odom's DL novel, Bitter Fruit.
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    7/13/2012 12:09 AM
    Braw!!! Jim that must wind you up watching all those muppet's going to the match outside your front window.
    Can't wait to get to Liverpool in the books, will be "Boss".
    I'm a Ranger's and Blackburn Man myself.
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    7/13/2012 12:33 PM
    Posted By silentalbino on 13 Jul 2012 12:09 AM
    Braw!!! Jim that must wind you up watching all those muppet's going to the match outside your front window.

    Thats not the worst of it, having them park on your drive whilst you are out has to take the prize...

    Jim

     

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