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Ron Miles
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4/20/2008 1:27 AM

    This is the official thread for comments on Deathlands #82 - Apocalypse Unborn

    The bibliography page is located HERE

    You can submit your own review HERE

    Be warned, this thread may contain spoilers for the book.

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    Revo-Ray
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    1/24/2009 1:00 AM

    All I have to say is did the writer of this book actually read or know anything about any of the others books.  I mean scagworms were mentioned in the book right before this one (Desert Kings). Yet Ryan and his crew acted like they had never seen them before the whitecoats had them in the tubes.  To many things did not add up in this book.

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    1/24/2009 12:00 PM

    Actually, it was Sunspot  that the scagworks were previously mentioned in, not Desert Kings.  Both Sunspot and Apocalypse Unborn were written by the same author, and AU was intended to be published first.  However, once the m****cripts were delivered GE made the decision to flip them because they had mistakenly scheduled two Doc Tanner time travel books back to back.  Point in fact, the author was trying to do exactly what you are complaining about - create some continuity between books.  He even warned the editors of the continuity issue when they desided to flip the schedule and was told that it had been "fixed".  Clearly it was not. 

    As to whether the writers in general know anything about the other books - usually not.  They are writers for hire, they are being paid a pittance to churn out x number of pages by a certain date based on a general plotline.  At present there are 84 published books in the Deathlands series, and no rational human being is going to read roughly thirty thousand pages of pulp fiction in order to write a new entry.  Making it even more complicated, they are writing the books long before they are actually published and there are multiple authors involved.  This means that Writer #1 has no idea what Writer #2 is doing with the book being published immediately before theirs or what Writer #3 is doing with the book being published immediately after theirs.  This makes book-to-book continuity very difficult.  You could argue that there should be more editorial involvement and/or more communication between authors, but for a myriad of reasons this generally does not happen.

    It is different when you have a series that is primarily written by a single author.  For several years Deathlands was written by Laurance James, and he was able to weave long-running plot threads because he knew exactly what was happening book-to-book and could plant the seeds for future plots.  With Deathlands moving to six per year, this situation is likely to only get worse.  A given writer may be contracted to write several books, but they will likely not be published consecutively so the best they can do is weave some kind of general continuity between their own books while not hamstringing the other authors in the stable.

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    1/24/2009 6:39 PM

    Oh, by the way, welcome aboard Revo-Ray!  It's always good to see a fresh face.  Feel free to wade right in and start a conversation, it's been a mite quiet around these parts lately.

    I intent to wrote a general post about continuity a little later when I have time to compose my thoughts, and I'll be curious to see your response.

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    1/25/2009 3:06 PM

    [QUOTE]Revo-Ray wrote
     

    All I have to say is did the writer of this book actually read or know anything about any of the others books.  I mean scagworms were mentioned in the book right before this one (Desert Kings). Yet Ryan and his crew acted like they had never seen them before the whitecoats had them in the tubes.  To many things did not add up in this book.

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    there was me thinking the exact same thing! its bad when the top brass are notified about mistakes and dont rectify though

    The other british one
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    1/25/2009 6:35 PM

    Let me peel back the curtain for you a little bit:  Gold Eagle only has a very small handful of actual employees.  They are pretty much just an imprint from Harlequin, getting the benefits of the printing and distribution network and with only a certain amount of control.  They contract out for authors and cover artists, and even the editors are not full time employees but are just part-time editors for hire.  It doesn't really surprise me much when something like this falls through the cracks despite the best efforts of good people.

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    12/4/2013 6:41 PM
    Just finished this yesterday,what a hell of a book.This is HOW Dl should be written. Loved the unarmed combat, the Islanders and the Trainers. How come there wasn't more praise for this book.
    Maximus
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    12/5/2013 1:39 AM
    Phillipson was awesome. If you think that was great - which it was! - wait'll you read his Xibalba duology. CLASSIC TO THE MAX!!
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